Originally posted by usmc7257There is still not the slightest scrap of evidence that Saddam had anything at all to do with the attacks on 11/9.
i know alot of you dont agree with the us being over there, but its too late to turn back. i dont think this war was personal with bush. after 9/11 something had to be done. as for if we are still over in afganistan, we are i assure you. its just not getting the media it was when we first went. right now in iraq, the army is over there for clean up purposes ...[text shortened]... again? probably not but i think he is doing the best job he can for the circumstances provided.
I do agree with you on one thing though, the US can't just walk out now that the region is such a mess. But it worries me that attempts to hand power over to the Iraqis seem half hearted at best.
Originally posted by usmc7257just because a country is scared of another terroist attack, does that justify invading a country that had nothing to do with the other terrorist attack. Bin Laden hates Saddam, as Saddam ran a secular regime in an arab country - something Bin Laden hates as much as America!
i wasnt sayin saddam had anything to do with 9/11. that was the reason we went to afghanistan. with things heating up over there the whole country was scared of another terrorist attack. most of those fears came in the form of iraq, north korea, and syria
Originally posted by usmc7257Hi. i am quite new in rhp so i dont really know how things go in this forum. but i feel too strongly about this issue so i want to say a few words.
we attacked iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. everyone raise a big stink about not finding any...well the media doesnt know everything. there is alot more going on then cnn knows. there is a reason for everything and as for the war in iraq...that reason was not oil.
WAR is WRONG, ALWAYS. and the day i wont believe it anymore, i suppose i will be dead 🙂
when all the 11th sept horrible mess happened, mr chimp bush chose to forget that osama is a saudi. and that the majority of the hijackers were saudi aswell. no word was said about it, because saudi arabia is too much of a good friend of US... ok. so, no oil involved? heh right.
USA got those afghani "supposed" terrorists in their base in guantanamo bay, they are treated like beasts but nobody can say anything... lets not forget that USA ignores the geneva treaty, so they feel they can do whatever they want with their prisoners... even torture them as its known they actually do.
One last thing, thats about the 11th: how many jewish people were killed that day in the twin towers? not many, eh?
bush got a big jewish lobby to keep happy.... wouldnt look good to get them killed.
look i really dont like being rude, but if you are going to post at least make sure you know what you are talking about. osama is a saudi yes, but what you probably didn't know is that he was kiked out of saudi years ago and guess where he went...thats right afganistan. that country had no formal government and has been a have for terrorists for years. that is why he chose to go there. so this whole thing was not just to keep saudi on our side. as for your gitmo bay comment there was a quite heated debate on this a few weeks ago alot of people got very upset. we all agreed to drop it pretty much. so if you read it please dont post on it. the purpose of this post was not to flame you i mean no disrespect at all. but please be more informed.
always in friendship
mike
Originally posted by usmc7257so, you think he is an outcast in saudi arabia? well, then you are not very well informed. Really, you are not.
look i really dont like being rude, but if you are going to post at least make sure you know what you are talking about. osama is a saudi yes, but what you probably didn't know is that he was kiked out of saudi years ago and guess where h ...[text shortened]... at all. but please be more informed.
always in friendship
mike
and about afghanistan, please dont forget they produce a lot of the drugs US distributes democratically around the world...
well, not a secret, isit.
So, ok, lets leave out all the 11 stuff... what stays is: US is up to their neck in ALL the nefarious traffics of drugs, arms. and etc etc forever.
tell me that i am wrong
xxx
B
Originally posted by FrauHolleFrauholle, so you think the U.S. is behind the 9-11 tragedy because few Jews were killed? You are talking out of your arse hole...remove your pants so you can breathe! However, I do agree that Saudi Arabia is an evil empire and that we should tell them to stick their oil where the sun doesn't shine...you got proof that the Taliban scumbags in GITMO are tortured? If so, let's see it. Now, back to your ridiculous ASSumption that the U.S., backed by Jews, "hired" Saudi "pilots" to crash into the WTC towers and blamed it on Osama: totally asinine!! 🙄
Hi. i am quite new in rhp so i dont really know how things go in this forum. but i feel too strongly about this issue so i want to say a few words.
WAR is WRONG, ALWAYS. and the day i wont believe it anymore, i suppose i will be dead 🙂
when all the 11th sept horrible mess happened, mr chimp bush chose to forget that osama is a saudi. and that the majori ...[text shortened]... any, eh?
bush got a big jewish lobby to keep happy.... wouldnt look good to get them killed.
Originally posted by chancremechanicyou really are completely IGNORAMUS, lol.
Frauholle, so you think the U.S. is behind the 9-11 tragedy because few Jews were killed? You are talking out of your arse hole...remove your pants so you can breathe! However, I do agree that Saudi Arabia is an evil empire and that we should tell them to stick their oil where the sun doesn't shine...you got proof that the Taliban scumbags in GITMO ...[text shortened]... red" Saudi "pilots" to crash into the WTC towers and blamed it on Osama: totally asinine!! 🙄
I mean, what in the world are you talking about???? now saudi arabia is an evil empire???? why you think they are so quiet about all the middle east situation? because chimp bush is behind them, DOH. so, you say they are evil? explain it to your apey president, lol
and, well, about your last phrase... do you know the % of his jewish electors?. then we can really laugh. he just wakes up every morning and kisses asses from washington to israel... thats his task. good, because he couldnt do a lot more 😀
so osama wasn't kicked out of saudi? and because not many jews were killed in 9/11 its a conspiracy? hmm.. so you basically think bush sucks up to jews for votes? thats what i gathered from your previous statement. and i'm misinformed...ok if you knew half of the subject matter you are talking about then we wouldn't have to have this conversation. i think your post spoke for itself. i am sorry you feel that way but you have your opinions. not saying you are wrong but...a little on the extreme. i am curious as to where you are getting some of your information. you might want to tell them to do a little more research.
mike
Nice to realise a few of the more perceptive americans realise you are fighting a war against Iraq, and that it didn't finish when Bush announced "Mission accomplished. The war was supposed to free the world of weopons of mass destruction - how come we don't hear too much about them any more? If there are no WMD, why are the occupying troops still there? Maintaining stability, law and order is laughable - anyone here keen to go there for business or a holiday, protected by a force that can't even prevent their own headquarters being attacked?
Only way out - declare a pullout within 60 days, give the mess over to the United Nations who are not tainted by the lies of the invasion and get the hell out of it.
16 troops dead in September, 33 in October, any picks for November? Time is running out.
Originally posted by usmc7257Have you got special information on the weopons of mass destruction us ordinary people don't know about? Tell us more about the reasons - if it is not oil.
we attacked iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. everyone raise a big stink about not finding any...well the media doesnt know everything. there is alot more going on then cnn knows. there is a reason for everything and as for the war in iraq...that reason was not oil.
look the only thing i am saying is that it isnt about oil. i can say that the army is mostly pulling out and they will be replaced with marines within a few months and the length of our tours over there is going up. you are right about people still dying over there. more people have died after "mission accomplished" then during the actual war itself. a pull out of all troops is out of the question. i wish it was all much easier but it isnt
mike
Originally posted by FrauHolleFrauhole...how old are you?...15?....what I mean by Saudi Arabia being evil is ther human rights abuse record...torturing Christians and non-Muslims. Ok, so the US kisses Israel's ass; I'll give you that one. If GW is an ape, I guess Tony Blair is his side-monkey, no? What do YOU propose we do to eliminate terrorism in the world today? Do YOU have a better plan? If you Brits don't like siding with the Americans, go suck up to the ultimate FROG, Chirac and his side-monkey, Schroeder. If Europe had taken a stance against Hitler that GW took with Saddam, there would not have been a WW2...read your history about your spineless PM Chamberlain...it may help you understand some things...Cheerio... 😴
you really are completely IGNORAMUS, lol.
I mean, what in the world are you talking about???? now saudi arabia is an evil empire???? why you think they are so quiet about all the middle east situation? because chimp bush is behind them, DOH. so, you say they are evil? explain it to your apey president, lol
and, well, about your last phrase... do you know ...[text shortened]... s asses from washington to israel... thats his task. good, because he couldnt do a lot more 😀
Originally posted by usmc7257So if it is not about oil what is it about?
look the only thing i am saying is that it isnt about oil. i can say that the army is mostly pulling out and they will be replaced with marines within a few months and the length of our tours over there is going up. you are right about people still dying over there. more people have died after "mission accomplished" then during the actual war itself. a pull out of all troops is out of the question. i wish it was all much easier but it isnt
mike
What difference does it make replacing the army with marines? Do you think the Iraqis don't mind being occupied by a foreign army if they are marines or do you think the marines will manage to crush resistance?
You say a pull out is out of the question. Six months ago very few Iraqis were prepared to fight and die for Saddam. Now your troops face continual attacks. How long will it be before suicide truck bombers target military convoys? Do you remenber what happened to the marines in Lebannon in 1982? What is your exit strategy?