Let me attempt to ressurect this thread. Cribs, are there any guiding influences in your faith system (maybe Christianity) that direct how you run a stable? This may sound like an absolutely ridiculous question, but I would also like to ask RBHill if there are also any admirable qualities that he has found in how you operate your business or thinking.
I really don't think that you can seperate the two "Religion and Politics" When alot of legislation has to do with what can be called morality.
I think that a person who responds to a thread, no matter what it is, with a religious comment it is their opinion based on what is important to them.
The main problem is that if some one makes a religious statement in a thread; people will go out of their way to attack or "try to make them understand the right way of thinking"(I guess that could go either way) and this hijacks most threads, and should be avoided.
Originally posted by kirksey957Love one another.
Let me attempt to ressurect this thread. Cribs, are there any guiding influences in your faith system (maybe Christianity) that direct how you run a stable? This may sound like an absolutely ridiculous question, but I would also like to ask RBHill if there are also any admirable qualities that he has found in how you operate your business or thinking.
Don't murder, lie, or steal.
I think I must agree with Cribs on this one. Has anyone noticed that if you ignore the whining about its placement in the general forum the "Week 1 Bible Study is on Salvation" thread is one of, if not the, best debate on RHP. The intent that the name of the thread suggests has no place on RHP, however, the intent has not been realised anyway, and a lively debate ensued...sounds good to me.
TheSkipper
Originally posted by TheSkipperthe origin oft the thread was yesterday. There were 9 posts yesterday on which was saying that they were sad to see the thread was not on the debate forum anymore and a few were quibbiling about word definitions. The other 40 posts were today and they were a debate about moving the thread or leaving it here. Now out of the original 9 if you remove Cribs post, the exchange between DreamLax and Rob and my posts what is left? So before you go agreeing with anybody, please read the thread yourself to find out what EXACTLY is going on.
I think I must agree with Cribs on this one. Has anyone noticed that if you ignore the whining about its placement in the general forum the "Week 1 Bible Study is on Salvation" thread is one of, if not the, best debate on RHP. The intent that the name of the thread suggests has no place on RHP, however, the intent has not been realised anyway, and a lively debate ensued...sounds good to me.
TheSkipper
Feivel
Originally posted by FeivelYour statistics are inaccurate. Did you fail to see our lengthy
the origin oft the thread was yesterday. There were 9 posts yesterday on which was saying that they were sad to see the thread was not on the debate forum anymore and a few were quibbiling about word definitions. The other 40 posts were today and they were a debate about moving the thread or leaving it here. Now out of the original 9 if you remove Cribs post, ...[text shortened]... ng with anybody, please read the thread yourself to find out what EXACTLY is going on.
Feivel
discussion on salvation? I didn't see those posts accounted
for in your summary.
Cribs
You've all forgotten about the difference between religion and metareligion.
I don't think proselytizing constitutes a debate. The problem with what Cribs is saying is that while a debate may start in one of those threads, I don't think the intent of the OP is to debate (in this case, he doesn't ever seem to want to). Now some of the most ridiculous spam is allowed to exist in General (the long thread, for instance) so I see no difficulty: religious discussion goes in General, discussion about religion goes in debate.
Originally posted by CribsIn the bible study thread? In this forum? Can you please tell us the date of those posts. You can go back and relook at them if you wish.
Your statistics are inaccurate. Did you fail to see our lengthy
discussion on salvation? I didn't see those posts accounted
for in your summary.
Cribs
Feivel
Originally posted by FeivelToday, the discussion starting at the top of Page 2 of the General Forum's
In the bible study thread? In this forum? Can you please tell us the date of those posts. You can go back and relook at them if you wish.
Feivel
Bible Study thread. The portion that starts with your own post that
quotes me.
Cribs
Originally posted by royalchickenWhat is OP?
You've all forgotten about the difference between religion and metareligion.
I don't think proselytizing constitutes a debate. The problem with what Cribs is saying is that while a debate may start in one of those threads, I don't think the intent of the OP is to debate (in this case, he doesn't ever seem to want to). Now some of the most ridic ...[text shortened]... fficulty: religious discussion goes in General, discussion [b]about religion goes in debate.[/b]
Some members of our community may not appreciate, recognize,
or even be capable of the level of abstract thought required to
recognize a difference between religion and meta-religion. For these
members, would you suggest that they be banned from participating
in meta-religion discussions in the debates forum? If so, would you
be able to justify that ban to them in a manner that they can
understand, given that they don't recognize the religion/meta-religion
distinction?
Cribs
Originally posted by PhlabibitThis is the description given for the debates forum:
I [b]might move a couple or at least one thread back to debates.
I fear if we had a new religion forums... some would come to pick on posters. If ever there does come a religion forums... those posts would be removed (if it were up to me / it is not).
Seems to me anyone who wants to talk about religion is asking for a debate... but they don' ...[text shortened]... ![/b] RHP has no plans for a new forums yet... Russ is still on vacation??? Keep that in mind.[/b]
Potentially heated discussions on topics such as religion, politics and other such areas of interest.
Seems to me that any thread about religion has the potention to develop into heated discussion.Therefore I believe any religious discussion should take place in the debates forum.It's why that forum was developed in the first place!
Originally posted by CribsI know what posts you are referring to. Please post the date and time of the post as I asked. Otherwise your accusation of my statistical error will be ignored as it should be. Unless of course you decided that today really means yesterday 🙂
Today, the discussion starting at the top of Page 2 of the General Forum's
Bible Study thread. The portion that starts with your own post that
quotes me.
Cribs
Feivel
Originally posted by FeivelDown boy,
the origin oft the thread was yesterday. There were 9 posts yesterday on which was saying that they were sad to see the thread was not on the debate forum anymore and a few were quibbiling about word definitions. The other 40 posts were today and they were a debate about moving the thread or leaving it here. Now out of the original 9 if you remove Cribs post, ...[text shortened]... ng with anybody, please read the thread yourself to find out what EXACTLY is going on.
Feivel
I have read the thread in question, and in light of your accusations I reviewed it again. I stand by my claim that it is a good debate (although continually interupted by questions concerning where it should be located). This first two pages alone are filled with debate regarding salvation and religion in general including a brief look at buddhism. Not to mention a post by YOU!
I would like to add that your frustration with my assertion is not that I have not read the thread in question, as indeed I have, but more with your apparent inability to recognize a debate when you see one.
TheSkipper
Originally posted by FeivelExamine the last three posts of that thread. All were posted
I know what posts you are referring to. Please post the date and time of the post as I asked. Otherwise your accusation of my statistical error will be ignored as it should be. Unless of course you decided that today really means yesterday 🙂
Feivel
prior to you posting your summary statistics, and you statistics
did not account for those.
Cribs
Originally posted by TheSkipperYes and the post by me was the ONLY real post by me of any substance whatsoever. The only one debating Rob seems to be Cribs (and that was today not yesterday as he insists). Cribs can easily continue his debate with Rob via PM cause his debate is off the topic of "bible study," which is what the post is about. And you are right, I can't recognize a debate but I can always recognize an immature child so...
Down boy,
I have read the thread in question, and in light of your accusations I reviewed it again. I stand by my claim that it is a good debate (although continually interupted by questions concerning where it should be located). T ...[text shortened]... nt inability to recognize a debate when you see one.
TheSkipper
Don't fire the first shot unless your sure your gonan take me out 🙂
Feivel