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Very Rusty
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@great-big-stees said
Stees where did you dig up this piece of garbage from?

@rookie54 said
they reached out to rusty
did their dangdest to explain
alas they know not that rusty
is a gigantic forum stain

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@Very-Rusty
Stees was replying to rookies post which is 3 posts above his reply.

@forum population as a group
There's a popular saying "engage brain before putting tongue in gear" which needs to be modified for online forums. There's a big temptation to start typing as soon as you read someone's post, and if you've misunderstood their post you may unintentionally create a dispute with someone who intended you no harm, and also kill the thread because it turns into a pointless I said/you said string of posts about nothing.

I have used the pronoun " you" here because if I'd used "one" it would sound too schoolmarmish. I'm not actually meaning anyone personally.

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@kewpie said
@Very-Rusty
Stees was replying to rookies post which is 3 posts above his reply.

@forum population as a group
There's a popular saying "engage brain before putting tongue in gear" which needs to be modified for online forums. There's a big temptation to start typing as soon as you read someone's post, and if you've misunderstood their post you may unintentionally create ...[text shortened]... use if I'd used "one" it would sound too schoolmarmish. I'm not actually meaning anyone personally.
You ever think of teaching English? 🙂

How would one type if their brain wasn't engaged kewpie? Wouldn't one have to put their fingers in gear and not their tongue?

I thought being engaged had something to do with getting married?

-VR

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@they said
Unlearning is an effective tool for successful parenting.
How?

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@fmf said
I don't know whether Indonesia Phil agrees, but further to a bit of a discussion recently about driving on Indonesian roads, I think British drivers have to "unlearn" the 'highway code' they use when driving here for their own safety and for the safety of others.
I think the process is simply “newly learnt stuff which replaces old redundant learnt stuff”.

I also think “unlearning” as a term is a bit of a gimmick, and a quickly becoming hackneyed one at that.

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@divegeester said
I think the process is simply “newly learnt stuff which replaces old redundant learnt stuff”.

I also think “unlearning” as a term is a bit of a gimmick, and a quickly becoming hackneyed one at that.
I once had a trainer tell me I want you to forget everything your other trainer taught you.

I told him, that would be impossible. I could try and do things your way, but how do you expect me to forget something another trainer has already taught me?

He didn't have an answer for me!

-VR

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@very-rusty said
I once had a trainer tell me I want you to forget everything your other trainer taught you.

I told him, that would be impossible. I could try and do things your way, but how do you expect me to forget something another trainer has already taught me?

He didn't have an answer for me!

-VR
Lol. I used to have a driving instructor in the army who used to say the same thing.

Forget everything the other guy said.

But seriously, you guys need to calm down and not be so aggressive and paranoid.

Kewpie's advice is sound and the ghost was trying to defuse the situation also.

Take a deep breath everyone

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@instantkarma777 said
Lol. I used to have a driving instructor in the army who used to say the same thing.

Forget everything the other guy said.

But seriously, you guys need to calm down and not be so aggressive and paranoid.

Kewpie's advice is sound and the ghost was trying to defuse the situation also.

Take a deep breath everyone
Who put you in charge of everyone else's behavior?

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@handyandy said
Who put you in charge of everyone else's behavior?
Just giving my opinion same as you and everyone else

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@instantkarma777 said
Just giving my opinion same as you and everyone else
The opinion of a self-appointed monitor?

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@handyandy said
The opinion of a self-appointed monitor?
I am not anyone's monitor.
I just gave my opinion just like you do.

If you don't like it you have the right to disagree.

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@instantkarma777 said
I am not anyone's monitor.
I just gave my opinion just like you do.

If you don't like it you have the right to disagree.
My mum had a standard answer for this kind of stuff: stop squabbling or I'll knock your heads together! She would have done it too, and we knew it. 😁

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@divegeester said
How?
It's not perfect and really just semantics probably - but I like the saying

No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.
~Heraclitus

What we know as people when our children are three is different from what we know when they are thirteen. Also, as a separate and only somewhat related fact, we are different and they are different.

Taken together then -

Saying that unlearning is an effective tool for successful parenting makes sense to me. It's not just we learned more. We have changed our minds about some of the things we learned before. And not necessarily because we were wrong. Things change. The world changes.

New stuff replaces old stuff yes. But its not like replacing a car. The old stuff can still hang around in the dark recesses for a very long time, and rear it's ugly head at the most inopportune times. It's not like if your car breaks down or won't start your old car suddenly reappears in the driveway and says hey remember me? Drive me again - it was all good remember?

OK maybe its all psycho-babble. We certainly have our share of that here (guilty as charged your honor). But it makes sense to me. I am glad I unlearned some of the ways I talked to my children. I unlearned maybe my listening style, which was not ideal.

I used to know just about everything. Now I know just about nothing. That took a long time.

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@kewpie said
My mum had a standard answer for this kind of stuff: stop squabbling or I'll knock your heads together! She would have done it too, and we knew it. 😁
My mother was the same.
I remember when I was 10. I asked to go out and play. She said no because it was raining.

So I played inside with a tennis ball. Eventually the inevitable happened. I smashed a bulb hanging from the ceiling.

She hit me with the sweeping brush telling me that the bulb was in the house longer than me.

I guess bulbs lasted longer back then. That was 1971.

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@instantkarma777 said
Lol. I used to have a driving instructor in the army who used to say the same thing.

Forget everything the other guy said.

But seriously, you guys need to calm down and not be so aggressive and paranoid.

Kewpie's advice is sound and the ghost was trying to defuse the situation also.

Take a deep breath everyone
A summarization of your opinion on what has been said!

Are you bias when it comes to what kewpie and goad say? I think that to be a fair question.

-VR

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