What would you do?

Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
I love animals so much. They have given me far more love and respect in my life than I ever get from people. It sickens me beyond words to see a dog mistreated. There is no reason for that no matter what the dog may have done. You did the right thing by calling the police, and perhaps a call to the humane society is in order too, but it's too risky to ...[text shortened]... ription as you can of the scumbag and if there is a way to photo or film the scene, then do it.

As do I! Out of rage I probably would've have done something incredibly stupid that would've most likely gotten me hurt, or in jail for a good few weeks, or possibly both. I don't understand people today. There is no good reason to kick your [or any] beloved dog 🙁

I bet he wouldn't like being kicked...and I would take that into account as I took action upon him. However, Attila, your solution seems a whole lot more sensible, and I will remember this decision instead, in the case I do something like this happening. Hopefully my cheap camera-phone would be able to take detailed enough pictures -.-

-K

Originally posted by kfennessy
Hopefully my cheap camera-phone would be able to take detailed enough pictures -.-

-K

Smart move, and if you are a quick runner even better.

😉

Originally posted by knightwest
I was walking down the street with my girlfriend last night and I spotted a guy kicking the crap out of his dog. I shouted at him and he briefly stopped, looked up and then decided I am not a threat, continued stamping on his dog. It was brutal.

I called the police and they promised they'll send someone round, but realistically a dog being beaten up wo ...[text shortened]... angry that I didn't react the way I would have liked to react.

What would you have done?

It's hard to know what to do idn the medst of a situation. What do you think he would do if you asked him if you could have the dog?

Originally posted by Woodgie
Smart move, and if you are a quick runner even better.

😉

Ahaha. Ha...thankfully I am 😉

I am also very thankful for camera zoom 😀

Originally posted by kfennessy
Ahaha. Ha...thankfully I am 😉

I am also very thankful for camera zoom 😀

I learnt at a very early age the old "attack and run" routine.

I have perfected it by shouting rude words over my shoulder at the same time.

😀

Originally posted by knightwest
I was walking down the street with my girlfriend last night and I spotted a guy kicking the crap out of his dog. I shouted at him and he briefly stopped, looked up and then decided I am not a threat, continued stamping on his dog. It was brutal.

I called the police and they promised they'll send someone round, but realistically a dog being beaten up wo ...[text shortened]... angry that I didn't react the way I would have liked to react.

What would you have done?

Coming in between does not mean you have to act like Steven Seagal or risk of getting beaten yourself. Just push him gently away from the dog and see what you can do for the dog, totally ignoring the guy. It is not very very very likely this person will continue beaten or kicking a dog when someone actually has come in between, risking to kick you. Or even to atack you instead. I feel it is a great opportunity missed, showing your girl you are confident enough to come between fighting parties, protecting an innocent party, and show some fathership potential, if applicable. you might need that to save your child from a drug using kidnapper....?

If you feel you have not done enough and want to make up, go and be a vegetarian for at least a month. You'll do far, FAR more good against animal cruelty in this way than to help an individual dog.

Originally posted by Aiko
Coming in between does not mean you have to act like Steven Seagal or risk of getting beaten yourself. Just push him gently away from the dog and see what you can do for the dog, totally ignoring the guy. It is not very very very likely this person will continue beaten or kicking a dog when someone actually has come in between, risking to kick you. Or even to a ...[text shortened]... You'll do far, FAR more good against animal cruelty in this way than to help an individual dog.

Yeah just push a violent nutjob gently away and step between him and the object of his insane rage, that'll solve everything.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Yeah just push a violent nutjob gently away and step between him and the object of his insane rage, that'll solve everything.

It does. Have done this myself. Be at ease and be calm, don't start shouting, name calling or go into attack physically or verbally. Ignoring in combination with a calm defence is probably the best thing to handle this appropriately.

Originally posted by Woodgie
You are assuming I have never been in his position and you are also assuming I have never been in your position.

You are wrong on both counts.

Edit: For evil to succeed requires good men to do nothing.

No offence is intended in my comments by the way.

One of my favourite quotes. I do what I do because I believe in it.
The question is 'what is doing nothing?'.
In my view, it is to acquiesce, or to ignore. Calling the authorities because you have assessed it is too dangerous to rush in is not ignoring the problem.

Jews in Nazi Germany were not in a position to rush every guard with a machine gun. Nor were sympathisers in a position to overtly defy the state regime in every situation. They applied their brains to defeating evil.
Extreme comparison I know but it is not incumbent upon us all to rugby tackle the thug beating the dog to avoid the acusation of doing nothing. What would you have your Gran do in that situation?

I made no assumption about you Woodgie, just felt your point was a little abrupt and simplified, and potentially could make the poster feel bad when he acted with integrity (in my view)

Originally posted by Policestate
One of my favourite quotes. I do what I do because I believe in it.
The question is 'what is doing nothing?'.
In my view, it is to acquiesce, or to ignore. Calling the authorities because you have assessed it is too dangerous to rush in is not ignoring the problem.

Jews in Nazi Germany were not in a position to rush every guard with a machine gun. N ...[text shortened]... fied, and potentially could make the poster feel bad when he acted with integrity (in my view)

This reminds me of the famous documentary where two dozen people walked past a collapsed vagrant (staged by actors) on a footbridge in the middle of a city. He was acting being injured and in pain, rather than being slumped drunk and asleep.
Finally an off-duty paramedic went up to him, intervened, and started calling the authorities.

All 24 people that walked past said "but he could have been putting it on and I could have been mugged".

I can understand this (although I am confident I would have checked him out).

What none of them could answer was the question "why didn't you move to a safe distance and call an ambulance?"

That is doing nothing. That is disgusting and a sad reflection on humanity today. It is also quite different to the example that started this thread.

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I can imagine this happening when people start counter attacks. This will cause a reaction from the initial attacker. Just don't counter attack, don't provoke. Be calm can really do so much. No attacker is willing to stay out for long, so leave room for an escape when not much is to be gained anymore. Much less chance of getting a knife in between your ribs and still get the job done in a decent way.

In what way will the average police (wo)man do different? I assume there will hardly be much difference in their response to said attacker (Dutch police). The difference is they will start using force when the attacker is unwillingly to go along to the office, and be at the scene when it is probably much too late. But as a spectator, you can make some difference.

Originally posted by Woodgie
On one hand you are right, but on the other, why should our mate back down?
He has to grow a set one day.

I love animals and do a little bit of voluntary work for a rescue centre.

What type of dog was getting the beating?
There are a very few rare instances where bringing a dog down is called for.

Said like a true armchair hero.

Originally posted by Aiko
It does. Have done this myself. Be at ease and be calm, don't start shouting, name calling or go into attack physically or verbally. Ignoring in combination with a calm defence is probably the best thing to handle this appropriately.

What about all those Burmese monks? I'm sure they were pretty calm and serene, and I'll guess they didn't call anyone names, but they got killed anyways.