Originally posted by YugaSo my feelings are that I'm not ready to condemn Obama for Ayers' actions or even associate them.
To answer the question, albeit indirectly:
Attacks on character may be effectual in some circumstances.
People want simple answers to complex questions; if hierarchy exists, the result is conflict. People will believe and act on what they are told in some situational contexts.
In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ... [Laughs] Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it. [Laughs] We have always been small 'c' communists in the sense that we were never in the Communist party and never Stalinists. The ethics of communism still appeal to me. I don't like Lenin as much as the early Marx. I also like Henry David Thoreau, Mother Jones and Jane Addams [...]"[35] In 1970 Ayers was called "a national leader"[36] of the Weatherman organization and "one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen" by The New York Times.[37] The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[38] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."[39] In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: "We are a guerrilla organization [...] We are communist women and men underground in the United States [...]"[40] The Weatherman leadership, including Bill Ayers, pushed for a radical reformulation of sexual relations under the slogan "Smash Monogamy".[41][42]
Sounds like a decent dude.
GRANNY.
Originally posted by LuckLOL, great. I thought we heard the last of you "Clinton was the devil" types.
What caused this economical crises? The liberal mortgage rules pushed though by Clinton in 1999-2000.
Liberal mortgage rules? Yes. Aided and abetted by your republican friends in Congress, the banking industry lobbyists succeeded in deregulating the entire industry. The actual cause of the economic crisis? Greed, pure and simple. For example, the entire board of AIG is laughing their asses off all the way to the bank, congratulating each other that they got away with it.
I dream of a day when America will no longer be under the yoke of capitalism as practiced in this country by the already rich, for whom even billions are not enough. When Free Enterprise ceases to be the National Religion. We could do with a bit more separation of Church and State, given that Capitalism is the current State-sponsored Church in America.
Originally posted by smw6869Yes, A MARXIST, like Obama!
In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ... [Laughs] Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it. [Laughs] We have always been small 'c' communists in the sense that we were never in the Communist party and never Stalinists. ...[text shortened]... an "Smash Monogamy".[41][42]
Sounds like a decent dude.
GRANNY.
Harri / Luck
Originally posted by randolphSchools are funded by the real estate taxes collected within the school district, NOT by income taxes.
That's freakin' stupid. We should have the rich who can afford to take their children out of the slummy public schools not have to pay taxes to support children whose parents don't have enough money to get them out? We would see a widening of the class gap and a rise in crime.
If you are against the voucher system, you must also be against to have kids "bussed" to other schools outside the residents' home school district!
The schools should be ranked by the level of education they offer and the students should be allowed to select which school they want to go to because the bad schools are dominated by parents who use the school as daycare for their children.
Harri / Luck
Originally posted by LuckHe believes in a teaching system where elementary kids receive no tests, no report cards, and are encouraged to address their teachers by the teacher's first name. He and Obama worked together on school projects in Chicago. Seems a little far out to me, but i don't know all the details or if Obama would use this system, but it makes me want to grab my ankles and sing anchors away.
The root to that is the Teachers Union!
Harri / Luck
GRANNY.
John McCane runs around with people like G, Gordon Liddy. He is John McCains terrorist connection. This felon broke into the democratic national head quarters during Watergate. Read all about it. Bill Ayers is a Boy Scout compaired to this guy.
http://tinyurl.com/3wlgd4
Vote early...Vote Obama. I've already cast my vote...you can too. It's an American thang.
Originally posted by inthegreenroomHa! Thanks a bunch, man. I was about to change it for one of the Pope, actually.
It's been awhile since I've graced the forums...and I must say that your profile is freakin' hilarious.
I was busting up at work!
Good shyte.
I'll leave this one for more time... in your honor! 🙂
Originally posted by cashthetrashHow many times have you done it already!
John McCane runs around with people like G, Gordon Liddy. He is John McCains terrorist connection. This felon broke into the democratic national head quarters during Watergate. Read all about it. Bill Ayers is a Boy Scout compaired to this guy.
http://tinyurl.com/3wlgd4
Vote early...Vote Obama. I've already cast my vote...you can too. It's an American thang.
Harri / Luck
Originally posted by LuckAsk yourself is the United States and the World better off now than they were eight years ago. If you can't remember Just ask yourself about 8 weeks ago.
LIER
Harri / Luck
National Average
1) higher National debt brought on by lower tax's at a time of war.
2) higher unemployment
3) longer working hours with less pay
4) Higher cost of living
5) Health care costs skyrocketing
6) Higher fuel costs
7) Bigger government than any time in American History
8) Stock market collapse
9) Bank failures
10) Cost of food has increased
11) Home foreclosures in record numbers
12) Large increase in the sales of body bags
13) The World hates Americans even more than ever.
14) Floridians are dumber as sand if they haven't learned anything in 8 years
15) There's a lot more but I need to quit now before Crowley accuses me of spam'in. (But he might actually agree with me so he probably won't this time, although I would be shocked) 😉
Originally posted by cashthetrashNational Average
Ask yourself is the United States and the World better off now than they were eight years ago. If you can't remember Just ask yourself about 8 weeks ago.
National Average
1) higher National debt brought on by lower tax's at a time of war.
2) higher unemployment
3) longer working hours with less pay
4) Higher cost of living
5) Health care costs ght actually agree with me so he probably won't this time, although I would be shocked) 😉
1) higher National debt brought on by lower tax's at a time of war.
Here you are right, but at least we agree that we are in war against terrorists!
2) higher unemployment
Brought by the mortgage crises - Thanks Bill
3) longer working hours with less pay
The productivity is too poor by the American workers - we want - but not to work for it. In many countries, personal phonecalls are not allowed during work hours. Neither is "chitchat" nor bathroom breaks
4) Higher cost of living
Of course, they will be even higher after the next President
5) Health care costs skyrocketing
This is brought by the grazy law suites by lawyers. There are doctors here in Florida who has to pay over $5,000 per month just for liability insurance
6) Higher fuel costs
The tree-huggers have prohibited drilling for oil and especially building of refineries- NONE built during the last 30 years
7) Bigger government than any time in American History
And it will be much bigger if Obama wins the election
8) Stock market collapse
Brought by the mortgage crises - Thanks Bill
9) Bank failures
Brought by the mortgage crises - Thanks Bill
10) Cost of food has increased
The tree-huggers wants biodiesel, therefore, farmers sale their crop to the highest bidders - not for food
11) Home foreclosures in record numbers
Brought by the mortgage crises - Thanks Bill
12) Large increase in the sales of body bags
Brought by Clintons refusal to eliminate Osama - Thanks Bill
13) The World hates Americans even more than ever.
Why do you think i.e. French hates Americans? Nowadays over 20% of their population are muslim immigrants!!!
14) Floridians are dumber as sand if they haven't learned anything in 8 years
Here you are right - They are still stupid Democrats
15) There's a lot more but I need to quit now before Crowley accuses
me of spam'in. (But he might actually agree with me so he probably won't this time, although I would be shocked)
He might
Harri /Luck