23 Aug 04
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Now this is something worth reading...a theoretical arguement about erroneous theoretical arguements. Even Stephan Hawking would be perflexed.
To put my two cents in: I don't believe it is the judging that is flawed (thus deducting excessively for an extra step), but the scoring system which is flawed. The scoring is very rigid and dictates how much will be deducted for different kinds of errors. It also allots a number of points to each portion of the routine. I think that a 0.1 deduction in the past was not an "instant failure", but the competition has become so tight that it has taken on a greater impact than intented.
Hopefully a revsion will come soon.
Thank you for your attention, we now go back to your arguement in progress. 😵
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by bbarrNo, I'm denying that 'the moon is made of cheese' is a false premise necessarily. By 'error' I meant omission or erroneous writing of some step. I think that's a worse error than a questionable premise.
You deny that false premises constitute errors of argument? What stipulative definition of 'argument' are you employing?
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by royalchickenOf course "the moon is made of cheese" isn't necessarily false, because it's logically possible that the moon could have been made of cheese (ie, there is a possible world where the moon is made of cheese). But so what? "The moon is made of cheese" is contingently false, but false nonetheless. Hence, the argument above has a false premise. False premises are errors in argument, hence the argument above had an error. Yet, the argument above was sufficient to establish its conclusion. Where were we? Oh yes, gymnastics.
No, I'm denying that 'the moon is made of cheese' is a false premise necessarily. By 'error' I meant omission or erroneous writing of some step. I think that's a worse error than a questionable premise.
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by kirksey957What is it with beach volleyball and water polo? When did they start with this stuff? It seems like the Olympics are becoming just a glorified version of the "X games", or something. They might as well put in skateboarding, fer cryin' out loud.
Bennett, I think beach volleyball is our sport. 🙂
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by rwingettWhat, are you all about shotput and discus? Do you refuse to watch anything other than the marathon? Get with the program, Rwingett! Haven't you seen the women who play beach volleyball? Damn.
What is it with beach volleyball and water polo? When did they start with this stuff? It seems like the Olympics are becoming just a glorified version of the "X games", or something. They might as well put in skateboarding, fer cryin' out loud.
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by rwingettOh stop your freethinkin whinin. Did you even look at the beach volleyball? Man, you've been in the artic too long. I so hate looking at these sports where you just wait for someone to fall or slip. I found myself very relaxed and enjoyed the sport as there was a lot of teamwork and a fun mood about it. They ought to take all those gymnists out there and get them to roll around in the sand. Be good for them all. Less injuries too.
What is it with beach volleyball and water polo? When did they start with this stuff? It seems like the Olympics are becoming just a glorified version of the "X games", or something. They might as well put in skateboarding, fer cryin' out loud.
24 Aug 04
Originally posted by bbarrHey, I'm from the old school of thought on this one. The Olympics were originally just supposed to be naked men doing Graeco Roman wrestling and stuff. Hmmm...I guess a little progress doesn't hurt once in a while.
What, are you all about shotput and discus? Do you refuse to watch anything other than the marathon? Get with the program, Rwingett! Haven't you seen the women who play beach volleyball? Damn.