21 Oct 05
Originally posted by chancremechanicYou know, I can't even be bothered........or can I?
The US economy "rules" the world TODAY (maybe not for long), my Afrikander friend, so in effect, we do "rule" the world, which isn't a good thing. We feed a large population of the world with our wheat, beef, and other agricultural commodities. We spend billions of dollars on your own country in the fight against HIV, we give billions of dollar ...[text shortened]... on to win the "World Series" in 6 games. Oswolt is a heck of a pitcher, don't you think? 😉
The US economy is significant, but it would be hard to say it rules the world if you look at the combined size of the emerging Asian markets, not to mention Europe. I agree that your influence is too strong, particularly through the World Bank (demanding privatisation of utility companies in the third/second world in return for loans for example), hard to pin this entirely on the Yanks but you know as well as I do you have a big say in policy. The billions of dollars against HIV in SA, I'd be surprised if it was that much, grateful but surprised. I'd say that the policy of restricting aid to countries that don't teach abstinance as the only form of sex-ed morally undoes a good few billion of aid anyway.
Don't claim you're supporting Mexico's economy until you tighten up your borders a bit and therefore stop enticing all the skilled, capable and energetic workers to hop the fence into the deep south. I'm sure they appreciate the (numerous) handouts, but your economy is as dependant on Mexicans as Mexico's is upon the US. (Who else is going to pick you fruit, clean your floors, serve your burgers, carry your bags and slaughter your beef?)
Freed the Afghans? Please. You paid and trained the Taliban back in the eighties, (as did we in our small way) around the time you'd give anyone a tank if they were going to point it anywhere near the USSR, or anyone else you don't like, (who trained the Iraqi Republican Guard?) It's not as though life's too rosy over there now, just as long as you stick it out, but do you think that's likely?
I whole-heartedly agree with your assesment of the chance of Iraq's problems being solved. I offer no criticism because I was thought it was the right thing to do at the time, I do however think I was a fool.
Southern Africa has it's problems, most of them caused by European Imperialism over the last few hundred years, and the legacy of minority rule which we left and has been overturned. We should see this as a lesson however, you can rarely solve a countries internal problems by invading, no matter how good your intentions.
I can discern no coherent arguement out of what you have said about Mugabe, but I agree his actions are a disgrace. As is the inaction of the rest of the world.
To suggest that a person must solve his countries 'crime and AIDS' problems before commenting on the name of a sports competition is laughable. If you wish to disagree with my assesment I will be happy to debate the issue after you have solved America's drug and gun crime problems.
"that, my friend, is where true "world series" ignorance lies......"
I just don't understand this sentance.
OK, back to baseball.
My understanding is limited, but is the pitcher the most important player on the team? It would seem to me that with the scores being so low (when compared to the number of scoring attempts, ie batters having a swing) there must be quite a lot of emphasis on defence, ie pitching well enough to not be hit. If this is correct how many of the ten (?) innings does the starting pitcher play in, and can he return after being replaced. Aslo is the batting order reset after each innings? So if the first six players bat in the first innings does the second innings start with the sixth batter or with the first again?
Coming out to Washington DC in a couple of weeks, will there be any other baseball games to go to (minor league stuff) or is the 'World Series' finals all that is on this time of year? I'd quite like to see a game.
21 Oct 05
Originally posted by chancremechanicJust a point of order here. I am neither your friend nor an "Afrikander". Meanwhile, *our* troops are more involved in peace keeping missions in Africa than waging wars in other continents. As a non-aligned nation, we wisely kept out of an illegal and immoral campaign. The billions of dollars comment on HIV is simply untrue.
The US economy "rules" the world TODAY (maybe not for long), my Afrikander friend, so in effect, we do "rule" the world, which isn't a good thing. We feed a large population of the world with our wheat, beef, and other agricultural commodities. We spend billions of dollars on your own country in the fight against HIV, we give billions of dollar ...[text shortened]... on to win the "World Series" in 6 games. Oswolt is a heck of a pitcher, don't you think? 😉
Mine was a relatively simple question about why it's called the World Series when it isn't. And you didn't know, so just blustered.
Anyway, enjoy the series. This is a baseball thread, after all.
21 Oct 05
Originally posted by PhlabibitYou'd think if you ruled the world you might come up with your own sport to export to the rest of the planet.
Dominican republic, Puerto Rico...
Many players come from Cuba to play here, as they do from Japan and several other countries.
The world series was named back IN the days when the US ruled the world... oh, wait... we still do.
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As it stands, you've plagiarised an English schoolgirls' game, which nobody else could give a sh1t about, because it's one of the most boring spectacles around.
I, like everybody else, would sooner watch the "world series" of grass growing, or the paint dyring "world cup", or the tiddlywinks "championship of the universe".
21 Oct 05
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Originally posted by sjegI think we should respect that this is a thread about baseball. If you just want to knock other countries/sports take it to the debates forum. (I realise I started it.)
You'd think if you ruled the world you might come up with your own sport to export to the rest of the planet.
As it stands, you've plagiarised an English schoolgirls' game, which nobody else could give a sh1t about, because it's one of the most boring spectacles around.
I, like everybody else, would sooner watch the "world series" of grass growing, or the paint dyring "world cup", or the tiddlywinks "championship of the universe".
21 Oct 05
Originally posted by sjegThese are words that hurt.
You'd think if you ruled the world you might come up with your own sport to export to the rest of the planet.
As it stands, you've plagiarised an English schoolgirls' game, which nobody else could give a sh1t about, because it's one of the most boring spectacles around.
I, like everybody else, would sooner watch the "world series" of grass growing, or the paint dyring "world cup", or the tiddlywinks "championship of the universe".
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21 Oct 05
Originally posted by Phlabibitthe problem is that denoting something as world series or world championship would for an ordinary not-US citizen imply participation from all over the world...
These are words that hurt.
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Maybe some very hot discussion could be avoided by a little bit of thought in choosing words??
21 Oct 05
Originally posted by PonderableLooks like it's ingrained in US culture, kinda like McDonalds...
the problem is that denoting something as world series or world championship would for an ordinary not-US citizen imply participation from all over the world...
Maybe some very hot discussion could be avoided by a little bit of thought in choosing words??
21 Oct 05
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Originally posted by buffalobillWell when the World Series was first played, The United States was the only country that had baseball, so it technically was 'the world series of baseball'.
Just a point of order here. I am neither your friend nor an "Afrikander". Meanwhile, *our* troops are more involved in peace keeping missions in Africa than waging wars in other continents. As a non-aligned nation, we wisely kept out of an illegal and immoral campaign. The billions of dollars comment on HIV is simply untrue.
Mine was a relatively simp ...[text shortened]... dn't know, so just blustered.
Anyway, enjoy the series. This is a baseball thread, after all.
It's only a misnomer if your teams not in it. 🙂
21 Oct 05
Its the WORLD SERIES, its always going to be the WORLD SERIES. no other organized baseball team from the rest of the WORLD could beat any major league team since all the best players in the WORLD come to play in the major leagues. It has a wide international base, I can't even pronounce some of the international names still. Therfore, in conclusion, hence, thus and finally, IT THE FREAKIN WORLD SERIES.
* I apologize for any harsh tones, i wish this to be read in the nicest way possible. good day to you
21 Oct 05
Originally posted by squaccermancalled the world series after a news paper that sponsored it in the start
I hate to pour scorn on any sports event, but why do they insist on calling American sports events World Series. I know that very few other countries play Baseball and American Football, and therefore the winners of the domestic American competition may well be the best team in the world, but goddamnit I find it a little bit arrogant.
Are there any inte ...[text shortened]... o beat Australia in your big national sports. There's nothing quite like beating the Aussies...
nothing to do with claiming it the world bets team in baseball (although they almost certainly are the best teams there)