11 Sep 08
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by irontigranIs this an exact quote from Palin and company or are you interpreting for them? I would like to see your reference.
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by irontigranNow that is funny, kinda.
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
11 Sep 08
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Originally posted by irontigranMcCain believes in a rape exception; Palin doesn't. Neither have said what criminal penalties would be appropriate for abortion if Roe v. Wade was overturned (which they support) though if their rationale for opposition to abortion is that a fetus is a "human being" then surely the harshest penalty under the law i.e. death or life imprisonment must logically be appropriate for this type of "murder".
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
EDIT: She would not seek out this issue. She feels like there are several other issues that are paramount to the future of the state," said Curtis Smith, spokesman for the Palin campaign.
Smith said Palin is opposed to abortion, but believes an exception should be made if the health of the mother is in danger.
That's the only exception Palin would make, though, Smith said.
"She doesn't make exception for rape and incest, only for health of the mother," he said.
http://www.juneauempire.com/smart_search/
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by no1marauderMcCain supports overturning Roe v Wade now, but he didn't in 2000. What is the term that I'm looking for?
McCain believes in a rape exception; Palin doesn't. Neither have said what criminal penalties would be appropriate for abortion if Roe v. Wade was overturned (which they support) though if their rationale for opposition to abortion is that a fetus is a "human being" then surely the harshest penalty under the law i.e. death or life imprisonment must logically be appropriate for this type of "murder".
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by irontigranIn some states, perhaps many or all--lawyers weigh in please,--when a sixteen year old girl gets pregnant, a rape has occurred. She must be 18 to consent.
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
12 Sep 08
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Originally posted by WulebgrThe age of consent varies in every state. In some states, I think New Mexico for example, the age of consent is 17.
In some states, perhaps many or all--lawyers weigh in please,--when a sixteen year old girl gets pregnant, a rape has occurred. She must be 18 to consent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by WulebgrYour info is out of date; 32 states have age of consents 16 or under. Additionally, in many of the states with an AOC of 17 or 18, if the ages of the two sexual partners are a few years apart (exact laws vary) even if one is below the AOC there is no criminality.
In some states, perhaps many or all--lawyers weigh in please,--when a sixteen year old girl gets pregnant, a rape has occurred. She must be 18 to consent.
http://www.ageofconsent.us/
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by irontigranJust think how many 100s of millions of lives would have been saved had there never been a Roe vs. Wade. Did you know that Norma L. McCorvey has since repudiated the outcome of her famous case and now shares with Ron Paul a desire to have Roe vs. Wade overturned?
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterRoe vs Wade being overturned would not end abortion, the matter would simply become a states rights issue
Just think how many 100s of millions of lives would have been saved had there never been a Roe vs. Wade. Did you know that Norma L. McCorvey has since repudiated the outcome of her famous case and now shares with Ron Paul a desire to have Roe vs. Wade overturned?
12 Sep 08
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Originally posted by no1marauderWow. Thanks. It appears that there are only ten states in which 16 is below the age of consent and there is no age gap provision.
Your info is out of date; 32 states have age of consents 16 or under. Additionally, in many of the states with an AOC of 17 or 18, if the ages of the two sexual partners are a few years apart (exact laws vary) even if one is below the AOC there is no criminality.
http://www.ageofconsent.us/
Arizona, California, Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, North Dakota, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Only eight states still have 18 as the AOC, but five of these lack the age gap provision. So my original assertion appears true for only 5 of 50 states.
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by irontigranThat seems reasonable and fair.
i think if a 16 year old gets raped, and becomes pregnant, that she should still be but to death (in states that those rules apply) if she chooses to abort for baby murder. no more victim card. the rapists child must be born, or else he wouldve killed her if he wanted the girl dead.
mccain/palin 08
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12 Sep 08
Originally posted by no1marauderThe apparent boost the MacPalin ticket has been getting has been attributed to woman especially white woman getting on board her train. Is it likely that she will maintain that support amongst the feminists in that number, if the Abortion debate gets stirred up?
Smith said Palin is opposed to abortion, but believes an exception should be made if the health of the mother is in danger.
That's the only exception Palin would make, though, Smith said.
Would it play to MacPalin's advantage or not, to have this election as a referendum on Roe vs Wade?