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2. C2 Easily Loses Game to 1200 Rated Players.

2. C2 Easily Loses Game to 1200 Rated Players.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
To get a knight on line 3...

I think my second move helps this process along nicely, as well as many good pawn moves. 2. C6 not only stops white's knight from advancing, but it also provides very necessary cover/replacement for the D5 pawn.

I ain't a grandmaster. No far from it, but I was very happy with my NON-book opening which in the end got the results I wanted, and the inevitable win against a good opponent.
You are lucky you got that result in the end. Next time I doubt it.

I don't agree with your comments. You just lucked out, that's all.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
It can also mean you have different timing.
We have tried to help you but you knock us.

Either you want help or you don't. If you don't, don't create a thread asking for it. If you do take it with good grace. We have tried to tell you why c6 and c6 (together) are bad but you won't listen.

Very well, stop wasting our time and stick with your 1300 rating for ever.

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I have to say this again: how is 2...c6 so terrible move? As we see black gained a control of center squares only three moves later. Certainly it is not the best move, but still playable. I really think you are giving him hard time without any real reason...

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c6 isn't a terrible move neither is b6 but together they are just horrible,you said the purpose of c6 was to restrict white's knight what was the purpose of b6 then?The only purpose i can see for b6 is Bb7 but with 2c6 you just kill that plan so you wasted a tempo with one of those moves.You didn't win because of the opening(but you could have lost because of the opening) you won because you're opponent played even worse moves than you did.

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Things is, white played 2.f3? before black played 2...c6. After 2.f3 white wants to create stonewall against blacks bishop in case it comes to b7. Of course, 2.f3 is not that good move (in fact I think its a really bad move) coz it creates several weaknesses but nevertheless there is a point behind it. Black saw this and also saw that after white made 2.f3 his bishop wouldnt be that strong on the b7-f3 diagonal anymore and so played 2...c6, preparing e5 and d5 advances..

I agree that had white played something like 2.Nf3 then 2...c6 would have been really inaccurate move. But after 2.f3 it is a decent and very playable move.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
Maybe... can you make reasons why specific moves were poor?
Look, I have no idea why you started this thread. All I read which you wrote was that 2...c6 was a bad move which lost the game for you. You were Black and you won. So what are you getting at?

Now something completely different, I looked at the whole game. I didn't agree with your moves. You kept pushing the pawns over and over again and then playing bad moves. You opponent did play bad also.

The point is that yes you won the game but does it really matter. You continue playing like that and you will get slaughter later on. Trust me, you just got lucky.

My advice is play properly. Develop your pieces, control the center, avoid unneccessary pawn moves and you will do well and your chess will improve. Take it or leave it but that's the best advice I got for you.

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Don't answer my question with a question,did b6 have a point or not?If b6 was pointless than it was a bad move.Given what your opponent played the tempo dosen't really matter however that dosen't make c6 and b6 any better, they still are bad moves.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
We have tried to help you but you knock us.

Either you want help or you don't. If you don't, don't create a thread asking for it. If you do take it with good grace. We have tried to tell you why c6 and c6 (together) are bad but you won't listen.

Very well, stop wasting our time and stick with your 1300 rating for ever.
why is 1.e4 b6 2.f3 c6 so bad for black. please explain to 2000-rated-player.

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Originally posted by omulcusobolani
Don't answer my question with a question,did b6 have a point or not?
I can answer that. 1...b6 was played in order to play 2...Bb7.

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