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2. C2 Easily Loses Game to 1200 Rated Players.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
1. You ain't a 2000 player; and
2. The reason these 2 moves played as move 1 AND 2 are bad has already been made clear above.

Stop trying to encourage bad play!
oh sorry. explain to 1990-rated-player

yeah. 1...b6, 2...c6 doesnt sound like a good opening. But after 1.e4 b6 2.f3? c6 it makes sense.

First of all, I havent said that 2...c6 is the absolutely best move. It is not. The point here was that most of you really think it is a TERRIBLE move. And I dont agree with that. Sure, there might be better moves like 2...g6 or 2...Nc6 etc, but:

Is 2...Bb7 better move than 2...c6? Okay it develops a piece, thats the good side of it. But is b7-square a good place for blacks bishop, especially AFTER WHITE JUST PLAYED 2.f3? CREATING KIND OF STONEWALL? I really dont think so.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
13 .. Qe8

This was my WINNING MOVE!!! However, in moving my opponents pieces, my previous moves were what set this up, as a queen has a large ability to draw pieces to where you want them. It's the title of my other thread... "A Horse On Three Is Better Than A Rook". Punch Line!

I take it even yourself would've taken my rook with your bishop(the big, big danger to my WINNING horse on three).
A horse? Can you actually play chess?

I don't know why I am spending any time on this as clearly you do not want to learn. If you think these 2 opening moves are so good play them in all your games again st as many strong players as possible and see what result you get. I firmly believe that the only way to settle these debates is to actually put your money where you mouth is so challenge 10 people graded 1600 upwards to a set piece game starting. 1. e4 .. c6; 2. d4 .. b6 and see what happens.

I have not taken much time analysing 13. .. Qe8 so this analysis may be wrong but suppose.
14. Nf3 .. Qe5;
15. Ne2 .. Ne6;
16. g3 .. h4;
17. c3 .. hXg;
18. cXd .. Qc7;
19. QXN .. 1-0

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Originally posted by Jusuh
oh sorry. explain to 1990-rated-player
I see no evidence that you are a 1990 rated player either and certainly your contribution to this thread does not support that grade. If, however, you think it is so good play it against 10 players graded above 1900 (giving you 90 points on them) and lets see the results.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
1. e4 .. c6; 2. d4 .. b6

I wouldn't play b6 with those lines.

14. Nf3 .. Qe5;
15. Ne2 .. Ne6;
16. g3 .. h4;
17. c3 .. hXg;
18. cXd .. Qc7;
19. QXN .. 1-0


[these lines don't make sense... nothing can move to Nf3.[/b]
Correction (typo in previous post)

A horse? Can you actually play chess?

I don't know why I am spending any time on this as clearly you do not want to learn. If you think these 2 opening moves are so good play them in all your games again st as many strong players as possible and see what result you get. I firmly believe that the only way to settle these debates is to actually put your money where you mouth is so challenge 10 people graded 1600 upwards to a set piece game starting. 1. e4 .. c6; 2. d4 .. b6 and see what happens.

I have not taken much time analysing 13. .. Qe8 so this analysis may be wrong but suppose.
14. Nf4 .. Qe5;
15. Ne2 .. Ne6;
16. g3 .. h4;
17. c3 .. hXg;
18. cXd .. Qc7;
19. QXN .. 1-0

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
If, however, you think it is so good play it against 10 players graded above 1900 (giving you 90 points on them) and lets see the results.
I would love to do that, but tell me where do I find +1900 players who play moves like 2.f3?

and yes, I think I could score up to 7-8 points against ten 1900-rated-players from that position.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
I would love to do that, but tell me where do I find +1900 players who play moves like 2.f3?

and yes, I think I could score up to 7-8 points against ten 1900-rated-players from that position.
You won't find any 1900+ rated player to play
1. e4 .. b6;
2. f3 .. and remain 1900+ for very long.

and most 1900+ players after f3 will play something like

2. Bb7 and 3. f4.

However you can always issue some unrated challenges for a set piece game with the 1st 2 moves already made.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
1) 11 ..H5

Move 11..h5 was played to give the knight support for it's travels onto the e3 square. It probably is foolish to cover with a castled pawn, however a game can change where it may be needed. Also part of the game I enjoy playing is runing the end pawn down(this is a way I learn of the strengths/weakness of a castled king).

Most importantly(for ...[text shortened]...
Maybe that was a poor move, i don't know. What do you think I shoud've played instead?
Think what you want.

I got better things to do with my time.

Good day. But wait wait.... I said Good DAY!
70's show 🙂

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Originally posted by 7ate9
I think you are a liar!

You saw I had gained a rec, looked it up, and then thought hell i'm getting out of here. 😉.
No way I just don't think I can convince you so my time is better spent elsewhere. You think pushing all those pawns were part of this grand strategy. I don't think it was, i just think you got lucky.

Let me ask you this, would you play the same way in your other games? I know people like trying things and that is fine but that is not how to play real chess.

You should follow what you do most of the time and develop pieces.


Speaking of recs, when did I get 1? I just noticed it when you mentioned yours.

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Perhaps you can explain why you played the same 2 moves (c6 and c6) in Game 2548124 when f6 was not played seeing c6 was supposed to be a reaction to f6?

Edit: Just a little search will find more games I am certain. Please if you really do want to improve take on board what people (who are only trying to help) are saying and you will improve.

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