2006 Ladies Tournament

Originally posted by xs
I'm at a loss to figure out how someone who can't
even play in tournaments could declare himself to
be such an authority on them.

Even someone who has never played chess at all could easily figure out that in the largely anonymous world of the internet, it's pointless to hold a women-only tournament without any real attempt to verify the gender of the participants. Sorry, your $29 didn't buy you any common sense.

Originally posted by arrakis
I suspect that the real reason some men hate women is because those individuals were raised in an environment where their mother was abused and dominated by their father. Put this environment together with a male who has strong sexual urges but finds women turn him down for sex - and a monster is created. 😲

This stuff goes pretty deep... from the abuser ...[text shortened]... feels the need to beat women at chess. All varying degrees of the male's psychological illness.

"All varying degrees of the male's psychological illness."

Must you generalize? We're not all suffering from this illness you describe.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
Even someone who has never played chess at all could easily figure out that in the largely anonymous world of the internet, it's pointless to hold a women-only tournament without any real attempt to verify the gender of the participants. Sorry, your $29 didn't buy you any common sense.

You assume everyone is as desparate as you to pass themselves off as a woman.

Most people here are more honest (or less gender-confused?) than you.

Originally posted by dottewell
You assume everyone is as desparate as you to pass themselves off as a woman.

Most people here are more honest (or less gender-confused?) than you.

LMAO...have you been taking psychology lessons from Arrakis??

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
LMAO...have you been taking psychology lessons from Arrakis??

No, I've been reading your posts.

"It's pointless to hold a women-only tournament without any real attempt to verify the gender of the participants."

This makes no sense to a man like me, who wouldn't dream of entering a tournament for women.

I'm not a woman, you see.

Originally posted by dottewell
"It's pointless to hold a women-only tournament without any real attempt to verify the gender of the participants."

This makes no sense to a man like me, who wouldn't dream of entering a tournament for women.

I don't want to take sides and start again the flaming with "Arrakis the Psychologist" but what Bigdog said makes a lot of sense on the internet.
Maybe not in the real world but surely on the web where people hide and lies about their proper identity.

The fitting example is about the GrandContinent tournaments.
People were changing their nationality flag just to enter the Oceania or SouthAmerica event where they had more chances of reaching the final round and it really happened when a spanish guy, DigitGus, won the event reserved to Oceanian players : Tournament 200.

Here the statement of BigDogg makes perfect sense as we can say that "It's pointless to hold a Oceania only tournament without any real attempt to verify the nationality of the participants."

The same can be said for any tournament where the conditions for entering it can easily be avoided from people who are so thirsty about a tourny victory that they'd even pass as another person in order to win.

Originally posted by dottewell
No, I've been reading your posts.

"It's pointless to hold a women-only tournament without any real attempt to verify the gender of the participants."

This makes no sense to a man like me, who wouldn't dream of entering a tournament for women.

I'm not a woman, you see.

I wouldn't enter a women's tournament either, but only someone who is naive or completely lacks imagination would rule out the possibility of other men entering. Not everyone has a sense of honor, you know.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
I wouldn't enter a women's tournament either, but only someone who is naive or completely lacks imagination would rule out the possibility of other men entering. Not everyone has a sense of honor, you know.

I don't think I ruled out the possibility. I said it made no sense to me to call the idea "pointless".

If quite a few men entered the tournaments here, I guess it just shows we have a disproportionately large number of idiots and sheep. I don't think its naive or completely lacking in imagination to think most normal men wouldn't enter a tournament for women, even if the only thing stopping them was a sense of honour.

Originally posted by dottewell
I don't think I ruled out the possibility. I said it made no sense to me to call the idea "pointless".

If quite a few men entered the tournaments here, I guess it just shows we have a disproportionately large number of idiots and sheep. I don't think its naive or completely lacking in imagination to think most normal men wouldn't enter a tournament for women, even if the only thing stopping them was a sense of honour.

All that's needed to wreck this tournament is a small minority of the site membership. I'm not sure why you continue to focus on the majority.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
All that's needed to wreck this tournament is a small minority of the site membership. I'm not sure why you continue to focus on the majority.

I wouldn't call it "wrecked" if a couple of people slipped the net.

I believe the majority of people are decent. The majority of people who pay to support this site wish to respect it. Russ asked men to withdraw from the tournament.

Sadly, our minority of idiots seems to be larger than that in the general population. I do believe ALL of them would have withdrawn, without coercion, if things hadn't decended into name calling and posturing. That was a shame. But the concept is workable.

Originally posted by dottewell
I wouldn't call it "wrecked" if a couple of people slipped the net.

I believe the majority of people are decent. The majority of people who pay to support this site wish to respect it. Russ asked men to withdraw from the tournament.

Sadly, our minority of idiots seems to be larger than that in the general population. I do believe ALL of them would ha ...[text shortened]... n't decended into name calling and posturing. That was a shame. But the concept is workable.

You also keep forgetting about the players who have never stated their gender. I wonder how many of them are male?

It's workable only if you strap on a pair of blinders.

Originally posted by dottewell
I wouldn't call it "wrecked" if a couple of people slipped the net.

I believe the majority of people are decent. The majority of people who pay to support this site wish to respect it. Russ asked men to withdraw from the tournament.

Sadly, our minority of idiots seems to be larger than that in the general population. I do believe ALL of them would ha ...[text shortened]... n't decended into name calling and posturing. That was a shame. But the concept is workable.

Russ asked you to withdraw. Why were you in the tournament to begin with? Unless if you are a women?

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
You also keep forgetting about the players who have never stated their gender. I wonder how many of them are male?

It's workable only if you strap on a pair of blinders.

Maybe dottewell could borrow your blinders.

Anyone who enters a "2006 Ladies Tournament" has stated their gender.
Nothings perfect, just check the Tourney wins by cheaters kicked off the
site. This tournament is underway, if a Lady wins she will be the 2006
Ladies Tournament Champion (for that band).


[edit]BigDoggProblem, don't for get to add an insult to your reply so
Ravello can properly rec it.[/edit]

Originally posted by RahimK
Russ asked you to withdraw. Why were you in the tournament to begin with? Unless if you are a women?

I wasn't ever in the tournament.

Originally posted by xs
Maybe dottewell could borrow your blinders.

Anyone who enters a "2006 Ladies Tournament" has stated their gender.
Nothings perfect, just check the Tourney wins by cheaters kicked off the
site. This tournament is underway, if a Lady wins she will be the 2006
Ladies Tournament Champion (for that band).


[edit]BigDoggProblem, don't for get to add an insult to your reply so
Ravello can properly rec it.[/edit]

Entering a Ladies tournament is not the same as stating your gender. This is easily refuted by the fact that a few admitted males entered.

The difference between computer cheats and male entrants in the women's tourney is that the site actually has some method for expelling the computer cheats. Even still, the site will pay a price for the imperfection of the system when some players leave because they're tired of losing to computers. Others stay in the tournament, but resign games to suspected cheats without making a move, thus throwing the whole section out of balance. At least the effort in banning some cheats will show that the site owners are serious about getting rid of them. The point is that the organizer has the majority of the burden of ensuring a quality tournament experience.

For the women's tourney, the site has no way to stop or even know about 'silent males' who enter. Zero-enforcement is a far cry from 'not perfect'.