27 Nov 04
Originally posted by RavelloOh ok, i didn't know that. I figured there was a program involved but i didn't know Q knew about it 😳😛😀
James,go and take a look in Tournaments forum in the ''Jameswoodley'' thread,page 11,there's the analisis done on this game,tlai was using Hiarcs8 to play his moves.
27 Nov 04
i have been contemplating buying some books to enhance my chess skills for some time, but i heard this thread would begin in the forums, so i decided to wait.
i am now considering investing in a chess engine for practice purposes only.
having read the last few posts this has led me to ask the following questions;
(1) does this assist me in countering the world famous woodley attack?
(2) does using an engine for practice purposes only, help me boost my ratings?
(3) if during practice purposes only, would an engine recognise that a players ability is such that it would recommend i resign? for example if i was player j against opponent t, would it tell me that player t was so good that it recommends i resign.
i would be extremely grateful if ppl could assist in these important questions.
thanks
chris
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27 Nov 04
Originally posted by chris stephens(1) does this assist me in countering the world famous woodley attack?
i have been contemplating buying some books to enhance my chess skills for some time, but i heard this thread would begin in the forums, so i decided to wait.
i am now considering investing in a chess engine for practice purposes only.
having read the last few posts this has led me to ask the following questions;
(1) does this assist me in co ...[text shortened]... be extremely grateful if ppl could assist in these important questions.
thanks
chris
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You'd better ask Kasparov 😉
(2) does using an engine for practice purposes only, help me boost my ratings?
Hmm, depends how you use it. One thing you could try is playing a game, once you've lost, get the computer to analyse it. It will suggest 'better' moves, generally speaking it will do this in the places were you've made a mistake, though sometimes your mistakes won't result in the loss of a piece or check mate, rather they will be positional or stategic mistakes. The computer can't really spot these mistakes, it will just evaluate whether a capture will result from the move. This is why humans can still beat computers. It is also why strong human players can tell when their playing a computer 😉
(3) if during practice purposes only, would an engine recognise that a players ability is such that it would recommend i resign? for example if i was player j against opponent t, would it tell me that player t was so good that it recommends i resign.
No it wouldn't. It would just play on until mate. The way a computer chooses a move is it looks at all the possibilities and equates a numerical 'value' to each move (or rather line, as the computer will look ahead a certain number of moves, normally about 10 to 14). Im sure you must have heard the 'value' of each piece, queen=9 pawns, rook=5p, bishop=3p, Knight=2.5pawns etc..., well the computer will give a value to each line based on the resulting captures. ie, if one move leads to the capture of a rook, that line will have a score of 5. If that line has the highest numerical value, that will be the line the computer plays.
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by mrrowieIts simple, fire up your engine, its working for a lot of people on this site at the mo, not just those 2.
Cool, how so?
No1 why dont you and your buddy boy Grayeyes stop wasting your time, Try going after some B's, anyone can catch A's, i could catch A's in my sleep.
So wipe that smug grin of your face and go do some real work, catch some B's
Regards FGWE
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by forevergreenwithenvyOf what possible use would it be even if I was inclined to hunt down all the cheaters on the site (which I already said I wasn't in the Site Ideas Forum)? If people can has blatantly and obviously cheat as these individuals and absolutely nothing is done about it, what would be the point of trying to prove other people were cheating? No one, NO ONE, who honestly looks at the facts can deny that Tlai and JW are cheating; yet they'll soon be firing up their engines from turn one on in the clan leagues!! If people insist that something be done about obvious cheats, maybe, just maybe, we can do something about not obvious cheats, but if obvious cheating is going to be OK the war's over.
Its simple, fire up your engine, its working for a lot of people on this site at the mo, not just those 2.
No1 why dont you and your buddy boy Grayeyes stop wasting your time, Try going after some B's, anyone can catch A's, i could catch A's in my sleep.
So wipe that smug grin of your face and go do some real work, catch some B's
Regards FGWE
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by no1marauderIt doesn't matter what game you play - if you cheat, you only cheat yourself.
Of what possible use would it be even if I was inclined to hunt down all the cheaters on the site (which I already said I wasn't in the Site Ideas Forum)? If people can has blatantly and obviously cheat as these individuals and absolutely nothing is done about it, what would be the point of trying to prove other people were cheating? No one, NO ...[text shortened]... o something about not obvious cheats, but if obvious cheating is going to be OK the war's over.
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by NyxieAs long as the JW/Thai situation remains unresolved in terms of RHP admin response then this girls subscription renewal will be found wanting. Time to vote with the credit cards people. Thats the only thing that Russ/et al respond too.
Or any of the questions here. My question while not as profound had great meaning for me. I believe the answer to it could help my game immensely.
Nyxie
skeeter
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by skeeterI agree in part, it's definately time to sort this out. I just searched public games for all the encounters between these two. In fairness, there are less encounters between these two than myself and Cheshire cat but it is alarming to see the results. How did Thai end up playing James in a clan match when he states that his clan only accept fair challenges? More to the point, how did he then go on and win them both, when out rated by 300 points?? 1300 odd player beats 1600 player twice in a clan match up, i'd like to see the day that's repeated without timouts involved!
As long as the JW/Thai situation remains unresolved in terms of RHP admin response then this girls subscription renewal will be found wanting. Time to vote with the credit cards people. Thats the only thing that Russ/et al respond too.
skeeter
27 Nov 04
Originally posted by skeeterI'm with ya Skeeter. That's the only way the admins will listen.
As long as the JW/Thai situation remains unresolved in terms of RHP admin response then this girls subscription renewal will be found wanting. Time to vote with the credit cards people. Thats the only thing that Russ/et al respond too.
skeeter