Originally posted by Cimonwhat about 8...g5 with the intent of ...Kg6 or ...Rg6(whichever is more feasable depending on whites play.)?
What about 6.Nxf7!? (instead of 6.Bxb7) Kxf7 7.Qe5 Rg8 8.Re1 with Bd5+ to follow? If 8...Be6 then simply 9.Qxc5 (with Ne5+) and black position looks at least doubtful.
Originally posted by CimonAh. I missed 13.Bd5+ after 12...b6 I thought white had to trade queens. but what about 11...b6 instead of 11...gxf2+ (the move order change is important since Bd5+ isn't as potent here.)
Compare activity of white and black pieces. I doubt if any strong player would want to play that position as black.
Originally posted by tomtom232Also trading of queens will not solve all problems as white minor pieces are more active than black rook and pawns. Position after 11...b6 12.Qxd4 Qxd4 13.Bxd4 Rad8 14.Ne5+ is obviously better for white. Black will have to fight for draw.
Ah. I missed 13.Bd5+ after 12...b6 I thought white had to trade queens. but what about 11...b6 instead of 11...gxf2+ (the move order change is important since Bd5+ isn't as potent here.)
P.S. Maybe 12.Ne5+ Ke8 (12...Kf8 13.Bh6+!) 13. Qxd4 is better.
Originally posted by CimonI don't think so. For example, 14.Ne5+ Kf8 15.Be3 gxf2+ 16.Kxf2 Rd6 and then he marches his h pawn and white is fighting for the draw. edit- lost on what to do if Ne5+ first but am tired so will sleep on it.
Also trading of queens will not solve all problems as white minor pieces are more active than black rook and pawns. Position after 11...b6 12.Qxd4 Qxd4 13.Bxd4 Rad8 14.Ne5+ is obviously better for white. Black will have to fight for draw.
P.S. Maybe 12.Ne5+ Ke8 (12...Kf8 13.Bh6+!) 13. Qxd4 is better.
Originally posted by tomtom232"White is fighting for the draw" made me laught 😀 After 17.Bf3 you will have no chance to move your h-pawn. After 17...Bxd3 18.Rc1 white rook will go to c7 with idea to grab queenside pawns and move a pawn.
I don't think so. For example, 14.Ne5+ Kf8 15.Be3 gxf2+ 16.Kxf2 Rd6 and then he marches his h pawn and white is fighting for the draw. edit- lost on what to do if Ne5+ first but am tired so will sleep on it.
Originally posted by Cimon17...a6 18...b5 disclaimer: I'm not trying to argue for arguments sake, I am just trying to pick your brain and maybe learn a thing or two.
"White is fighting for the draw" made me laught 😀 After 17.Bf3 you will have no chance to move your h-pawn. After 17...Bxd3 18.Rc1 white rook will go to c7 with idea to grab queenside pawns and move a pawn.