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The only in-depth treatment I recall for anti-computer chess is found in the writings of David Levy. Considering the rise of computers since then, and the fact that today's programs are much smarter, I find it odd that it is difficult to find any work on it today.

Are there any articles, books, or general coverage of anti-computer chess technique around? Have the basic tenets changed since the 80's?

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Id like to hear something on this as well

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Not really into computer chess however they always say try to close the position. My fave game was played by Boris Alterman

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1283543

Move 26 and position is one your not likely to see again.

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Originally posted by Audacious
Not really into computer chess however they always say try to close the position. My fave game was played by Boris Alterman

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1283543

Move 26 and position is one your not likely to see again.
Now THAT is wat I call a pawn storm!

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Originally posted by Gioachino Greco
The only in-depth treatment I recall for anti-computer chess is found in the writings of David Levy. Considering the rise of computers since then, and the fact that today's programs are much smarter, I find it odd that it is difficult to find any work on it today.

Are there any articles, books, or general coverage of anti-computer chess technique around? Have the basic tenets changed since the 80's?
Well, there is a guy on Playchess that plays anti-computer chess. He does quite well actually.

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The best strategy for beating computers is to play as Kramnik: deep positional understanding. Even so, Deep Fritz 10 outplayed him in game 6 of their match.

BTW, for all those that insist that Rybka is the strongest engine, it is worth noting two things:

1. The Fritz programming team no longer seeks to win computer-computer competition. They do not even enter the computer championships.
2. Rybka has not shown its strength against top GMs.

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Originally posted by Audacious
Not really into computer chess however they always say try to close the position. My fave game was played by Boris Alterman

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1283543

Move 26 and position is one your not likely to see again.
This game is great, thanks for posting, I would rec if I was sub.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
BTW, for all those that insist that Rybka is the strongest engine, it is worth noting two things:

1. The Fritz programming team no longer seeks to win computer-computer competition. They do not even enter the computer championships.
Yes, but maybe they did this because they can no longer compete with the likes of Rybka.

2. Rybka has not shown its strength against top GMs.

It plays against top GMs on ICC.

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Originally posted by Varenka


[b]2. Rybka has not shown its strength against top GMs.


It plays against top GMs on ICC.[/b]
At classic time controls?

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Originally posted by Superman
This game is great, thanks for posting, I would rec if I was sub.
Indeed! I think 17...Qh4 was a mistake by fritz

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
At classic time controls?
No. But how many has Fritz played?

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Originally posted by Gioachino Greco
The only in-depth treatment I recall for anti-computer chess is found in the writings of David Levy. Considering the rise of computers since then, and the fact that today's programs are much smarter, I find it odd that it is difficult to find any work on it today.

Are there any articles, books, or general coverage of anti-computer chess technique around? Have the basic tenets changed since the 80's?
http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/honor.htm

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Thanks for the links so far....

Here's the commentary on Alterman's Wall:

http://balterman.freeservers.com/altermanwall.html

I believe that Nemeth was using a version of Fritz running on a conventional computer with no opening book and very rapid time controls to produce his wins.

Levy mentions some anti computer play in this book, written in 1990:

http://www.amazon.com/Computers-Play-Chess-David-Levy/dp/0716781212/sr=1-1/qid=1165967076/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4222580-4282540?ie=UTF8&s=books

and

http://www.amazon.com/Beat-Chess-Computer-Batsford-Library/dp/080502316X/sr=1-4/qid=1165967092/ref=sr_1_4/102-4222580-4282540?ie=UTF8&s=books



And here's an odd little book I found on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Psychiatrist-Matches-Wits-Fritz/dp/1929331045/sr=1-3/qid=1165967266/ref=sr_1_3/102-4222580-4282540?ie=UTF8&s=books

Review: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=316




Finally, Wolff mentions it briefly in a chapter in Idiot's Guide to Chess:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0028641825/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-4222580-4282540#reader-link

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Originally posted by Varenka
No. But how many has Fritz played?
several high profile matches

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
several high profile matches
Not that many games to have much statistical significance.

I can't prove how well Rybka would play against a GM, but I don't see any evidence to suggest that it won't be better than Fritz. With little to go on, maybe engine versus engine results is the best indicator we can use (albeit not a perfect indication).

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