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07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveYour stance is confusing. Although I was curious to see if you could reconcile it. But if not, so be it.
If you're confused that would be for you to work out for yourself.
Are you saying thats what you do,"reading moves out of a book"?
And what do you mean by "someone I consider" to be, how would I know? unless they state it beforehand.....
"Reading moves out of a book" is ethically the same as "copying moves out of a database", which you condemned as "pathetic". You then stated that you would play a game with a known database user.
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemWhen I said "..if you are copying moves from a database.." I was taking it for granted that people would understand this was meant as "copying unthought of moves with no understanding of why from a database"
Your stance is confusing. Although I was curious to see if you could reconcile it. But if not, so be it.
"Reading moves out of a book" is ethically the same as "copying moves out of a database", which you condemned as "pathetic". You then stated that you would play a game with a known database user.
That is all beside the point which was; why not let people know one way or the other?
It is not compulsory to use them.
It is not disallowed.
Some players do.
Some don't.
Question.
What good reason is there not to let your opponent know one way or the other?
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveBecause its redundant information.
Question.
What [b]good reason is there not to let your opponent know one way or the other?[/b]
Why do you want to know so bad anyway? It seems to me like you'd probably suffer a mental block against a db user. Just play the board.
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07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveYou're watering down your stance.
When I said "..if you are copying moves from a database.." I was taking it for granted that people would understand this was meant as "copying unthought of moves with no understanding of why from a database"
DS:"My understanding of database usage is where thousands, or even millions of past games are stored in a device [computer] which can be fairly consulted when a game is over to see if other options had been available and to keep a record. If they are consulted during a game other moves can also be seen which may or may not have been thought of. The "copying" of these moves is what I find pointless. "
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07 Jan 06
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Originally posted by RagnorakIf it's redundant information to you it obviously is not important to you. Though it's not imperative to me, I would still prefer to know.
Because its redundant information.
Why do you want to know so bad anyway? It seems to me like you'd probably suffer a mental block against a db user. Just play the board.
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It seems reasonable enough to me to PREFER to know. more reasonable than the people who prefer to hide their use of them.
And before I get called something new, I'm not directing this at anyone in particular.
edit, I believe I have played against d/b users and yes I do just play the board.....no mental block yet..
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveThe Analyze Board feature is another tool that we can use here at this site, but not in OTB or real-time Internet chess. Should we also disclose whether or not we use this feature?
Question.
What [b]good reason is there not to let your opponent know one way or the other?[/b]
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Natural ScienceYes, I want to know if they do. Infact lets go as far as having them tell us if they use any kind of chess board, including OTB boards. I use the analyse board on here, but sometimes I set up the position on my OTB board and play it out for my tough games.
The Analyze Board feature is another tool that we can use here at this site, but not in OTB or real-time Internet chess. Should we also disclose whether or not we use this feature?
I would be more worried about people using the analyse board and chess board to play the position out instead of using a db.
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by RahimKNot just IF they use the analyze board, but WHEN...
Yes, I want to know if they do. Infact lets go as far as having them tell us if they use any kind of chess board, including OTB boards. I use the analyse board on here, but sometimes I set up the position on my OTB board and play it out for my tough games.
I would be more worried about people using the analyse board and chess board to play the position out instead of using a db.
"Did you use the analyze board on that move? ... How about that one?"
07 Jan 06
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveYes I use a db/ books and I will continue doing so. If someone asks me then, I say I use them. I assume everyone used db when i'm playing them.
Not presently,
No.
and
No.
And you?
What do you think about the analyse board feature?
Wouldn't you like to know if they use that during the game or use a real board during the game?