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t

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I've never used an engine so don't know how long it takes to analyse and come up with recommended moves, but if you were to move 10, 20 or 30 moves a day, how long would that take?

b

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If RHP said that people could use computers to select moves and not tell opponents, RHP would promptly be out of business. As someone has already said, most of the better players already have computer programs and can play them to their heart's content. At RHP they want to play humans (with all their flaws). I don't think there's a correspondence site that allows surreptitious computer use. There are sites, however, that allow computers and they advertise themselves as such. People who like to play computers and can't afford their own (even tho the cheapest now can beat most people) can go on those sites and get their brains beat out by nitwits who can barely download software. I don't see the point myself, but it's a matter of taste...

BigDogg
Secret RHP coder

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
hey Big, i do derive enjoyment from playing chess but it is not important enough to tell my family whenever i win or lose rhp games;
Is it important to you personally?

U

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Tony Tiger, the only one that cares so much about ratings is IM31, not the general public. Why? Ironman did cheat/lie, after all, to become number one and never/rarely lose. Honestly, who's ego and obsession with rating is out of jack, us or him? Rec this if you agree people!

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tbc

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Originally posted by DeepThought
We put a lot of effort into these games, spread out over a month there is the research, working out variations and so on. If someone is going to beat me I want them to have worked harder than I did - or at least just be plain better at the game. I don't want to put in all that effort to have some dope with an engine win.
That is exactly right!!!

Moldy Crow
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Originally posted by newdad27
but isnt the point of playing that game out over a month to get better? I'm not trying to say cheating is ok, not at all. But playing on an online sight is for fun and to get better. The rhp ratings mean nothing, there is no money on the table, and there is little to no recognition. Granite it is against the rules of the sight so i guess something must ...[text shortened]... If anything the next time I play a "person" who will make mistakes I will be that much better.
"Granite it is against the rules of the sight" ..." Hey Mods , can you guys delete posts / entire threads on the grounds of stupidity alone ?

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I have heard a lot of talk here aout IM and his engine, and him being expelled from the site because if it, but has anyone heard IM's point of view? Did he get the chance to defend the charge publicly?

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Originally posted by Stives
I have heard a lot of talk here aout IM and his engine, and him being expelled from the site because if it, but has anyone heard IM's point of view? Did he get the chance to defend the charge publicly?
From my understanding, he was shown to have matched up moves with Fritz at a rate of well over 90%. That just doesn't happen, not even for Grandmasters. What defense could he possibly have?

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Originally posted by Natural Science
From my understanding, he was shown to have matched up moves with Fritz at a rate of well over 90%. That just doesn't happen, not even for Grandmasters. What defense could he possibly have?
Maybe he wasn't taking advice from Fritz... maybe Fritz was taking advice from IM31 ;-)

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Originally posted by newdad27
In regards to the use of chess engines and im31 what exactley would be "in it" for im31 to sit around for hours beating unsuspecting players by using a chess engine in hundreds of games?
I too wonder what's "in it" for a person who's cheating. Cheating is as cheating does. Some people have such low self esteem -- probably to match their lack of skill -- and cheating gives them a sense of accomplishment. But, as we all know, it's NOT an accomplishment to win by cheating. So why do it?

As for "why does it bother us" -- because for those who are not cheating there is a real since of accomplishment by matching wits with a human and prevailing....whether it's a single game, a clan match or a tournament.

If we "just wanted to play chess" -- we'd play Fritz ourselves.

Nonny

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