29 Mar 10
Originally posted by cotoiChecking moves or blunder checking is still cheating.
That's clear! So that's why, in the games I saw, it appeared that engine assistance is used. I have a correction though to make: genuinely good modern CC players can have indeed very high match up rates with the moves of the engines, because everybody who plays CC nowadays checks his moves with an engine for tactical errors. In the past, when there were no eng ...[text shortened]... some mods. Probably there are untouchable persons too. Great! Not a good site to play for me.
Your use of the word indeed, and other clues tell me who you are.
Send me a game old friend anytime.
29 Mar 10
Originally posted by cotoi😲 Seriously?! Apparently I have more wins than losses against an engine then! Hmm, though I am confused why a 1600-1700 USCF player is beating Rybkas and stuff.. 😉
As far as I know the main CC sites (IECG, ICCF) allow engine assistance; I also know that there are a number of sites which only claim that they regulate cheating, while in fact they fail to do so.
Sure, you can choose to play CC without engine assistance, but given that your opponents will likely have at least a Rybka running on a laptop, you should not be very surprised that you lose all the games 🙂
29 Mar 10
Originally posted by Ice ColdYou're wrong! I've never played on RHP and I don't have too many friends! Especially my friends don't play chess. For sure you mistake me for somebody else.
Checking moves or blunder checking is still cheating.
Your use of the word indeed, and other clues tell me who you are.
Send me a game old friend anytime.
I asked about the cheating policy here because - for me - this is the most important thing for an online chess server. I wanted to know if RHP has a working, clear and coherent cheating policy. Given that I play already on ICC, I see absolutely no reason coming to a site where some cheating seems to be allowed and some cheaters are untouchable.
29 Mar 10
Originally posted by range blastsI don't see any reason to use no engine assistance on a site which allows it. What I know is that many players who played postal chess in the past quit CC because of widespread engine usage.
😲 Seriously?! Apparently I have more wins than losses against an engine then! Hmm, though I am confused why a 1600-1700 USCF player is beating Rybkas and stuff.. 😉
29 Mar 10
A couple things
1) ICC has correspondence chess.
2) Doubtful that ICC is better at dealing with engine users than Playchess.
3) RHP has less cheats. This is what I have concluded- I play on another site (not to be named) and there are literally thousands of players 2000+ with improbable win loss records and no OTB experience. Meanwhile documented Master's are sitting at sub 2k. Seems odd no?
29 Mar 10
Originally posted by nimzo51) ICC correspondence sucks.
A couple things
1) ICC has correspondence chess.
2) Doubtful that ICC is better at dealing with engine users than Playchess.
3) RHP has less cheats. This is what I have concluded- I play on another site (not to be named) and there are literally thousands of players 2000+ with improbable win loss records and no OTB experience. Meanwhile documented Master's are sitting at sub 2k. Seems odd no?
2) ICC's cheat detection is the best in the business.
3) I agree completely (in terms of correspondence-only sites).
29 Mar 10
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Originally posted by nimzo51) Almost nobody plays CC on ICC
A couple things
1) ICC has correspondence chess.
2) Doubtful that ICC is better at dealing with engine users than Playchess.
3) RHP has less cheats. This is what I have concluded- I play on another site (not to be named) and there are literally thousands of players 2000+ with improbable win loss records and no OTB experience. Meanwhile documented Master's are sitting at sub 2k. Seems odd no?
2) Do you have an account there or you speak from what you heard from others? I played on playchess and I encountered many cheaters. A particular feature of playchess is that ALL the cheaters they catch are below 2000. Above 2000 there is no cheating detection procedure in place. By the way, do you know that if you switch the window focus 5 times on playchess, this is cheating? For them 🙂
3) I don't care that other sites have more cheaters. It's their policy, it's their business, maybe they get profit from allowing many cheaters pretend to play fair.
29 Mar 10
Originally posted by cotoiI never said we met at RHP 😕
You're wrong! I've never played on RHP and I don't have too many friends! Especially my friends don't play chess. For sure you mistake me for somebody else.
I asked about the cheating policy here because - for me - this is the most important thing for an online chess server. I wanted to know if RHP has a working, clear and coherent cheating policy. Given th ...[text shortened]... coming to a site where some cheating seems to be allowed and some cheaters are untouchable.
*soundFX-Axe grinding*
30 Mar 10
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Originally posted by cotoi1) I agree that CC on ICC is not that great. But if you are already paying there...
1) Almost nobody plays CC on ICC
2) Do you have an account there or you speak from what you heard from others? I played on playchess and I encountered many cheaters. A particular feature of playchess is that ALL the cheaters they catch are below 2000. Above 2000 there is no cheating detection procedure in place. By the way, do you know that if you switch the it's their business, maybe they get profit from allowing many cheaters pretend to play fair.
2) I have had an account on ICC for the last 10 years. I also have played on Playchess since it went live. Going over my games post mortem I dont see much difference between playchess and icc. Maybe playchess has gotten worse recently, I don't play there as often now, but on % basis there are still too many cheats on both.
3) It does matter, unless you think you will find a site that has eliminated all cheats. In which case, you wont be playing CC.
30 Mar 10
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Originally posted by nimzo5Of course, nobody imagines that it is possible to eliminate cheating completely. But at least reduced to an acceptable level, where let's say all those who match the moves of Rybka like 90% are removed.
3) It does matter, unless you think you will find a site that has eliminated all cheats. In which case, you wont be playing CC.