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I have one last question: if you buy a membership here, do you get more protection against cheaters? Meaning that, if you start a game with a dubious opponent, you receive a message from the staff like "we have some suspicions that your opponent is using an engine. We're not sure yet, but maybe you want to play somebody else".

Or I am dreaming? 🙂

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Originally posted by cotoi
I have one last question: if you buy a membership here, do you get more protection against cheaters? Meaning that, if you start a game with a dubious opponent, you receive a message from the staff like "we have some suspicions that your opponent is using an engine. We're not sure yet, but maybe you want to play somebody else".

Or I am dreaming? 🙂
nope. in practice you need to screen your opponents yourself.

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Originally posted by wormwood
nope. in practice you need to screen your opponents yourself.
Great! I guess that the staff is too busy to count the money they make from membership fees 🙂

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Originally posted by cotoi
Great! I guess that the staff is too busy to count the money they make from membership fees 🙂
Surely they have minions to do the counting. I think Russ & Chris just spread the cash on the floor and roll around in it while cackling incoherently.

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Originally posted by cotoi
Great! I guess that the staff is too busy to count the money they make from membership fees 🙂
What is your problem?
You haven't paid for anything so you can't complain.
You are not good enough to play at the level where the cheaters are so don't worry, your games won't be against cheaters.

They way you ask your questions makes me think you are looking for a website where you can cheat.

And who cares if someone cheats? Move on, be the better person.
This is internet chess, not a major real life tournament.

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I've played 300+ games on this site and only once was I convinced that I was playing a (C)heat. The player was banned soon afterwards. This doesn't say much other than its not all doom & gloom out there.

If I was rated 2200, rather than 1600, my experience might be way different. I think for an average player though, you will have little contact with these sad people.

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First of all I'm not complaining, but asking!

My rating is about 2000-2050 ELO and, as I said, I've just been banned from chess.com. I didn't cheat there, I simply asked how come somebody can have Rybka move in all his games and still be found "clean" when investigated for cheating by the staff. It was not just a singular case. On chess.com they have a whole legion of about 1000 users who play consistently like Rybka. Instead of banning them, the staff found it's much cheaper to ban me!

I don't know if my rating is low enough to avoid playing cheaters, I can say that there I had enough games against such "artificial intelligence" users.

I simply want to play chess against humans and I don't cheat. My ICC handle is 'costelus'. You can finger it to see it doesn't have any (C) attached to it 🙂

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Originally posted by Tactics and Endgames


And who cares if someone cheats? Move on, be the better person.
This is internet chess, not a major real life tournament.
Sure, but who gives me back the time I waste in a game against an engine user?

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Originally posted by cotoi
First of all I'm not complaining, but asking!

My rating is about 2000-2050 ELO and, as I said, I've just been banned from chess.com. I didn't cheat there, I simply asked how come somebody can have Rybka move in all his games and still be found "clean" when investigated for cheating by the staff. It was not just a singular case. On chess.com they have a whol ...[text shortened]... e is 'costelus'. You can finger it to see it doesn't have any (C) attached to it 🙂
Costelus as a rating in the 1700s. Engines here will be 2200+.

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What can I say? It happens. I don't think about it. I just try to play chess and slowly get better.
At your level you might run into 4 cheaters out of 100 games. No big deal just take it as a compliment. 😉

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Originally posted by cotoi


I've just been banned from chess.com. I didn't cheat there, I simply asked how come somebody can have Rybka move in all his games and still be found "clean" when investigated for cheating by the staff. It was not just a singular case. On chess.com they have a whole legion of about 1000 users who play consistently like Rybka. Instead of banning them, the staff found it's much cheaper to ban me!

Perhaps because public cheating accusations aren't allowed on chess.com, just like here?

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Originally posted by clandarkfire
Costelus as a rating in the 1700s. Engines here will be 2200+.
1700 blitz, 2000 standard, 1400 1-0 bullet (but the last one varies normally by 100-200 points in a day). However, on chess.com I got to play against many cheaters. Explain please!

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Because chess.com has more cheats than any other site on the net?

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Originally posted by cotoi
1700 blitz, 2000 standard, 1400 1-0 bullet (but the last one varies normally by 100-200 points in a day). However, on chess.com I got to play against many cheaters. Explain please!
How do you know they are cheating? because you lose?

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Originally posted by Tactics and Endgames
What can I say? It happens. I don't think about it. I just try to play chess and slowly get better.
At your level you might run into 4 cheaters out of 100 games. No big deal just take it as a compliment. 😉
About 30% of my games at the beginning were against engine users. After that I carefully selected my opponents. But - it's not my job to run engine analysis and count match-ups and tactical mistakes. That was all the problem: if I didn't do analysis before accepting a game, the number of wasted games was way too high to be ignored. At elast for me and for the time I have now.

I never made public accusations, I just posted games and analysis. It was not my fault if the results showed 100% or close to 100% matchup with Rybka 🙂

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