02 Jun 07
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Start two games with opposite colours against a higher rated opponent and just mirror every move they make, thereby getting either two draws, or a win and a loss which helps your rating either way?
Edit - This opportunity would present itself fairly regularly in clan games and tournaments in fact. I'm sure (if it's possible) that this happens fairly often. Seems like a good strategic idea.
02 Jun 07
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Originally posted by PsychoPawnNot if you wait for them to move first.
No. Wouldn't they have to mirror what you play too?
ie. Two games, You wait for him to move as white, then you go the the game where your white and replicate the move.. you then wait for his black move, and make it in the other game... and so on. It's cheap but wouldn't it work?
02 Jun 07
Originally posted by ih8sensThen they should wait to move until right before they time out. By that time you should be pretty much timed out in the other game.
Not if you wait for them to move first.
ie. Two games, You wait for him to move as white, then you go the the game where your white and replicate the move.. you then wait for his black move, and make it in the other game... and so on. It's cheap but wouldn't it work?
Then take the skull when you time out and there's just one game to play - no copying available then.
02 Jun 07
Originally posted by ih8sensYes, you could. However, I suspect it might prove a bit more difficult to obtain subsequent games against higher rated opponents after the first time a player pulls this stunt.
Start two games with opposite colours against a higher rated opponent and just mirror every move they make, thereby getting either two draws, or a win and a loss which helps your rating either way?
Edit - This opportunity would present itself fairly regularly in clan games and tournaments in fact. I'm sure (if it's possible) that this happens fairly often. Seems like a good strategic idea.
02 Jun 07
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Originally posted by AlboMalapropFoozerI guess so, but then the damage is done.. plus you gotta remember tournaments where you don't really have a choice about who you play.
Yes, you could. However, I suspect it might prove a bit more difficult to obtain subsequent games against higher rated opponents after the first time a player pulls this stunt.
It's cheap but doable... pit the same player against himself and watch 😛
Edit - Someone please tell me there's a rule about this.. I'm getting tempted...
03 Jun 07
Originally posted by PsychoPawnIt'd would work if the lower rated player has more vacation days yet to spend in that year.
Then they should wait to move until right before they time out. By that time you should be pretty much timed out in the other game.
Then take the skull when you time out and there's just one game to play - no copying available then.
03 Jun 07
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Originally posted by ih8sensThink how easy it would be for RHP to automate a search: find any identical games longer than a given number of moves, where the same player is White in one game and Black in the other. Or they could just automate such a check when a much lower graded player beats/draws a high rated player.
I guess so, but then the damage is done.. plus you gotta remember tournaments where you don't really have a choice about who you play.
It's cheap but doable... pit the same player against himself and watch 😛
Edit - Someone please tell me there's a rule about this.. I'm getting tempted...
It's a sure way to get banned.
03 Jun 07
Originally posted by Varenkabut is it against the rules???
Think how easy it would be for RHP to automate a search: find any identical games longer than a given number of moves, where the same player is White in one game and Black in the other. Or they could just automate such a check when a much lower graded player beats/draws a high rated player.
It's a sure way to get banned.
03 Jun 07
Originally posted by ih8sensit would take about 3 moves for the other guy to notice it, 5 to get suspicious, and 6 for him to start setting you up.
Start two games with opposite colours against a higher rated opponent and just mirror every move they make, thereby getting either two draws, or a win and a loss which helps your rating either way?
Edit - This opportunity would present itself fairly regularly in clan games and tournaments in fact. I'm sure (if it's possible) that this happens fairly often. Seems like a good strategic idea.
letting a higher rated player dictate where the game is going, playing into his pet lines, not a particularly good idea.
it might risk 3b as well, for outside assistance?
03 Jun 07
Originally posted by wormwoodIt wouldn't matter what your higher rated opponent did though.. you'd just mirror him in the OTHER game... wait for him to move in the other game (whether a good move or bad) and play it in the first game... there's no 'setting someone up'
it would take about 3 moves for the other guy to notice it, 5 to get suspicious, and 6 for him to start setting you up.
letting a higher rated player dictate where the game is going, playing into his pet lines, not a particularly good idea.
it might risk 3b as well, for outside assistance?
it might be against the rules though.. i certainly hope so.
03 Jun 07
You could also play two different people, and it would be no different than if they had played each other. Assuming there's no time-out situation, you'd be guaranteed 1 point from the two games.
I think someone tried this already. Eventually he was banned for computer use but I don't know if this stunt was a factor.