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Does anybody no some sucker moves

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Originally posted by TRAINS44
A duck to the right and a left hook upper cut.
I think he'd be too much of a chicken, Mr T.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
I think he'd be too much of a chicken, Mr T.
Could be, Mr. B Just got my black belt last week.

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Originally posted by TRAINS44
Could be, Mr. B Just got my black belt last week.
Mr T, what was holding your trousers up before?

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Game 1211942

Would people please stop falling for this one?
6. Qf3 wins a piece.
Don't try to hold the damn c pawn in the QGA.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Game 1211942

Would people please stop falling for this one?
6. Qf3 wins a piece.
Don't try to hold the damn c pawn in the QGA.
Neat. I never see this, because I usually play e4 instead of e3. Does black have any way to hold the pawn at all that is playable, even by a masochist?

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
Neat. I never see this, because I usually play e4 instead of e3. Does black have any way to hold the pawn at all that is playable, even by a masochist?
Not via 3. b5 they don't.

3. b5 4. a4 bxa4 5. Rxa4 and the c pawn is attacked twice with no defenders.

3. b5 4. a4 a6 5. axb5 and the a6 pawn is pinned to the a8 rook.

3. b5 4. a4 Ba6 (Bd7) 5. axb5 Bxb5 6. Nc3 c6 (Ba6 leads to Qf3) 7. b3 and varying lines (e6, cxb3) all leading to losing a pawn or more.

3. b5 4. a4 Qd7 5. axb5 Qxb5 6. Nc3 Qb3 7. Qxb3 cxb3 8. Bc4 and again it falls.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Not via 3. b5 they don't.

So what _is_ the magic move for black? It can't be 3 ... Be6? Or can it?

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
So what _is_ the magic move for black? It can't be 3 ... Be6? Or can it?

Did a search and found these recent games that did 3. ..Be6 where Black won.

Meduna,E-Zurek,M 2003
Alberti,A-Drazic,S 2003
Szeberenyi,A-Varga,Zo 2000
Buss,R-Rausis,I 1999
Dunnington,A-Zilberman,Y 1999

Position stats for games 1991 onwards are:

White won: 52%
Black won: 29%
Draw: 19%

This was from www.chesslab.com

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Originally posted by lausey

Did a search and found these recent games that did 3. ..Be6 where Black won.

(snippage)

This was from www.chesslab.com
No kidding. THAT ugly move is playable, is it? I'll have to do a bit of studying. Thanks!

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Originally posted by CrawlIce
No kidding. THAT ugly move is playable, is it? I'll have to do a bit of studying. Thanks!
If you think a score of under 40% is 'playable' for black, then yes, by all means, do some studying.

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Originally posted by welsharnie
If you think a score of under 40% is 'playable' for black, then yes, by all means, do some studying.
Hey, I don't play the QGA (except by accident, once, when I wasn't paying attention and got there by transposition). But I do have the QGA played against me, and I need to know what to do. Until now, I've been getting by by letting black keep the pawn while I rapidly develop.

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Here's a common mistake i see weak players make a lot. If you are playting white...

e4 ..e5
Nf3 ..f6??
Nxe5! ..fxe5
Qh5+ ..g6 (moving the king doesn't help either...)
Qxe5 ..(Whatever you like here)
Qxh8

Nice way to win material, it will only work once though 😉

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if he moves the king doesnt it take several turns longer to get a material advantage?

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Originally posted by marinakatomb
Here's a common mistake i see weak players make a lot. If you are playting white...

e4 ..e5
Nf3 ..f6??
Nxe5! ..fxe5
Qh5+ ..g6 (moving the king doesn't help either...)
Qxe5 ..(Whatever you like here)
Qxh8

Nice way to win material, it will only work once though 😉
I think fxe5 is more worthy of the ?? Qe7 has been played against Fischer for a draw.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I think fxe5 is more worthy of the ?? Qe7 has been played against Fischer for a draw.
Let's just compromise and give one question mark to each move.

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