Does anyone play the Center counter?

Originally posted by marinakatomb
Has anyone ever tried e4 ..d5, exd5 ..Qxd5, c4! followed by d4? I've never lost with this line, though i very rarely play e4. White can claim the center and added space with the tempo gained off the queen, transposing into the Queens gambit.

If the queen goes to a5 (where it normally goes), how can you play d4??Also, c4 takes the good square away from white's bishop.

Originally posted by buddy2
If the queen goes to a5 (where it normally goes), how can you play d4??Also, c4 takes the good square away from white's bishop.

And then you also have Qe4 check, which messes up white's development. No, Idon't think c4 so early isgreat.

Originally posted by buddy2
And then you also have Qe4 check, which messes up white's development. No, Idon't think c4 so early isgreat.

Originally posted by buddy2
And then you also have Qe4 check, which messes up white's development. No, Idon't think c4 so early isgreat.

Originally posted by Samdogg
I don't think that the Queen move is very good because it gets your queen where it can be pushed around to easily. I think Nf6 is the best because it gives you more posibilities.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. c4 Qe4+ 4. Be2

and then a later Nc3 pushes the Queen away. White's development and space are much superior to Black's. What's wrong with that?

Originally posted by martinbeaver
4..Qxg2 ?

Originally posted by martinbeaver
IM Andrew Martin suggests this move in his Center-counter book so it can't be all that bad. And i've read books by Silman, John Emms, Lev Alburt etc who all say it's a solid opening choice for black.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. c4 Qe4+ 4. Be2

and then a later Nc3 pushes the Queen away. White's development and space are much superior to Black's. What's wrong with that?

If black exchanges queens in this position, all he has to do is play e5 and he is at least equal, maybe better.