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White to move.



I think that this problem teaches an important tactical idea, bit should not be too difficult for the elementary kids I'm teaching. What do you think?

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move.

[fen]8/8/8/7P/3nk3/p5K1/8/3R4 w - - 0 1[/fen]

I think that this problem teaches an important tactical idea, bit should not be too difficult for the elementary kids I'm teaching. What do you think?
White exchanges his rook for black knight with check, then goes for the queen. Black queens first but white wins the black queen by skewering the king on the h8-a1 diagonal. Cool one, similar to Josh Waitzkin example from CM

1. Rxd4+ Kxd4
2. h6 a2
3. h7 a1=Q
4. h8=Q+ K somwhere 🙂
5. Qxa1

I think that is not too difficult for kids. Cool examples like this discover much of the chess beauty so kids will love them and chess even more 🙂

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Take the Knight. Black will Queen first, but it doesn't matter since you Queen with check skewering Black's King to his Queen.

Edit: well Ivan explains it the sequence of moves better than I did lol

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I do not like this problem...many moves are easily winning for white...a good problem is that one where there only one better than the rest move!

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it is like in that movie: searching for Bobby Fischer ?

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Yes, exactly.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move.

[fen]8/8/8/7P/3nk3/p5K1/8/3R4 w - - 0 1[/fen]

I think that this problem teaches an important tactical idea, bit should not be too difficult for the elementary kids I'm teaching. What do you think?
RXN+ and white Queens with check winning blacks Queen. Of course h6 along with a couple of R and K moves probably also win but what the heck the Rook sacrifice is the prettiest.

Not hard to see but a useful sort of trap to point out to improving players.

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I think this is quite tricky for White to win if Black doesn't allow the skewer and instead maneuvers his king to b1 (with the pawn still on a3). White has got a win, and perhaps this lesson could lead into when it is possible to win with king and queen against king and advanced pawn.

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Originally posted by vipiu
I do not like this problem...many moves are easily winning for white...a good problem is that one where there only one better than the rest move!
Yeah, you're right, a number of king or rook moves win for White. But as Dragon Fire stated, the rook sac is the prettiest. Interestingly, 1.h6 allows Black to draw, although I suspect there might be various ways for Black to lose the draw from imprecise play.

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
I think this is quite tricky for White to win if Black doesn't allow the skewer and instead maneuvers his king to b1 (with the pawn still on a3). White has got a win, and perhaps this lesson could lead into when it is possible to win with king and queen against king and advanced pawn.
Yeah, I think you're right. That scenario would force White to be careful.

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
I think this is quite tricky for White to win if Black doesn't allow the skewer and instead maneuvers his king to b1 (with the pawn still on a3). White has got a win, and perhaps this lesson could lead into when it is possible to win with king and queen against king and advanced pawn.
Since the pawn is on the a file, it would be impossible for white to win if black played correctly, no?

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Originally posted by moteutsch
Since the pawn is on the a file, it would be impossible for white to win if black played correctly, no?
Only if the pawn is on the seventh rank. If black tries to push the pawn to the 7th rank, White will be able to play Qa1 which wins easily.

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The most stubborn line towards a win seems to be

1. Rxd4+ Kxd4
2. h6 Kc3
3. h7 Kb2
4. h8=Q+ Kb1
5. Qh1+ Kb2
6. Qb7+ Kc2 [6. ... Ka2 7. Qb4]
7. Qa6 Kb2
8. Qb5+ Kc2
9. Qa4 Kb2
10. Qb4+ Ka2
11. Kf3 Ka1
12. Qxa3+ 1-0

Indeed if Black would have the pawn on a2 and the King on b2, there would be no way to force a win (Black hides the King in the corner)

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Originally posted by KnightStalker47
Only if the pawn is on the seventh rank. If black tries to push the pawn to the 7th rank, White will be able to play Qa1 which wins easily.
But how is he getting there? He will need to be on the b file in order to bring out his king!

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Other try for Black: 6. ... Ka1, but this isn't so troublesome either



7. Qc6 Kb2 [7. ... a2 8. Qc1#]
8. Qb5+ Ka1
9. Qc4 Kb2
10. Qb4+ Ka2
11. Kf3 1-0

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