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I hate opening as white!

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Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that I play it well, of course). But when I play white, I feel lost. Black has so many responses - if you open e4, you have to be ready for the Sicilian with all its lines, the Ruy (if you play it), not to mention the other responses. I've tried the closed sicilian, but it seems too passive. So, then I try d4, but I often find that I drift into a passive position (and I don't like the Benoni, Gufeld, Benko). So, I experiment with the English, but the response 1...e5 seems to give Black a really good game. Then I think maybe just play the KIA and be done with it, or one of the other systems like the Colle or Torre. Does anyone else out there suffer from this frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

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Originally posted by smrex13
Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that ...[text shortened]... s frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott
Well,the white repertoire takes more time to learn,because,as you said,black has so many replies and you have to know them all.
You could try the Bird,1.f4,no matter what your opponent replies,you'll always be in bird territory.But the bird doesn't suit everybody.
If you don't like it,best you can do is stick to one openingmove,e4,d4,c4,Nf3,are the most common choices,and learn to handle each possible reply.Even if you don't know the line your oppo chooses,you can usually manage by just following general principles,and make sure you don't get stuck in a passive position.

Good luck 🙂

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Originally posted by smrex13
Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that ...[text shortened]... s frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott
you only have to prepare for the sicillian and all its lines if your opponent has also prepared them. it seems like your complaining about opponents being better versed in opening theory than you, in which you just need to work harder. i have no problem facing the sicillian, i am well prepared to face most lines and usually can produce a pawn sacrifice my opponent does not expect. just study your lines or you will be facing opponents who are better prepared.

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Originally posted by smrex13
Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that ...[text shortened]... s frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott
Play the English...the ...e5 responses are actually the easiest to play against. I highly recommend "The Dynamic English" by Tony Kosten. He plays the English almost exclusively, so you know that he cares about what goes in the book. There is a great mix of games, plan, ideas, tactics, and the theory. Awesome book!

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Originally posted by smrex13
Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that ...[text shortened]... s frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott
I don't know any sicilian lines and I play against it all the time. Subscribe and play a lot of chess after a couple of hundred sicilian games you get the idea of where you shouldn't put your pieces.

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Play the English...the ...e5 responses are actually the easiest to play against. I highly recommend "The Dynamic English" by Tony Kosten. He plays the English almost exclusively, so you know that he cares about what goes in the book. There is a great mix of games, plan, ideas, tactics, and the theory. Awesome book!
+1 when you play c4 you want your opponent to play e5 and get into a siccilian with an extra tempo!!!!!!!
play the english or the kings indian attack

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Originally posted by smrex13
Just a rant for the day. I've been playing chess for about 2 years, and I've experiemented with most mainline openings. When playing black I always feel like the defense is "mine" after playing it for a little while. I'm ready to tackle what white has to throw at me, and I enjoy using the defence that I'm experimenting with (that doesn't mean that ...[text shortened]... s frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott
When I just start to play chess, I have the same problem as you, people told me I am stroger as Black. Just find a good opening you like and play this alot, it will be a good weapon.

Play Queen's Gambit, you will like it.

1. d4 d5 2. c4

Study this opening, it's most young players played opening today! 🙂

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I had the same problem. One time I beat a couple of 1800 point or so rated players as black. One of them wanted to change sides. I played 1. e4 and he played 1. ... c5. I did not know what to do. I struggled through a terrible loss. The game was over in eight moves and finished in twenty or so moves. I did not know what to do. If you have ChessMaster, play white and used the chess coach and the data base to help you in the opening. If you do not have ChessMaster try something like key word search "chess games" and research how the game has been played.

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I suppose you just gotta remember exactly WHAT is happening in a game of chess in a nutshell, that is this: White starts with the i itiative, and black has the job of trying to steal it out from under him.

It's the age old struggle. Here is my little suggestion. The book by Eric Schiller called "Unorthodox Chess Openings" It will hard for black to be prepared for these monsters. The book is CHOCK full of any unorthodox opening you can ever dream of. It's very comprehensive. I'd invest a few bucks and be prepared as white next time to knock black's socks off!

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I think a lot of new players play too aggressively as White. Just relax, develop, and don't try to press the "first move advantage" too much. That advantage is very small and subtle and it's not worth bothering with until you get really good.

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Originally posted by kingisdead
I suppose you just gotta remember exactly WHAT is happening in a game of chess in a nutshell, that is this: White starts with the i itiative, and black has the job of trying to steal it out from under him.

It's the age old struggle. Here is my little suggestion. The book by Eric Schiller called "Unorthodox Chess Openings" It will hard for black t ...[text shortened]... ensive. I'd invest a few bucks and be prepared as white next time to knock black's socks off!
Anything written by Schiller sucks....especially that one. All those openings suck....you can play lines that surprise people without ever having to stoop to Cardoza's level.

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Lines that surprise people. Hmmm....perhaps you can be more specific about those lines so that the original poster may be truly helped.

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Originally posted by kingisdead
Lines that surprise people. Hmmm....perhaps you can be more specific about those lines so that the original poster may be truly helped.
well, there's always the grob :-) or the polish...

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Does anyone else out there suffer from this frustration with white? Or do I just have a fear of commitment to one white opening?

Scott[/b]
Actually, I understand what you are going through. I gave up chess when I was sixteen, then took it up again at 47. I was overwhelmed by the advances in opening theory, and I wasn't really "studying" openings (I've got five opening books, and two of those are NCO and MCO-14). I've gotten around it by concentrating on the Reti and the English openings as white. It cuts down immensely on the responses you have to prepare for, and both are fun to play.

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Originally posted by SirLoseALot
Well,the white repertoire takes more time to learn,because,as you said,black has so many replies and you have to know them all.
You could try the Bird,1.f4,no matter what your opponent replies,you'll always be in bird territory.But the bird doesn't suit everybody.
If you don't like it,best you can do is stick to one openingmove,e4,d4,c4,Nf3,are the ...[text shortened]... ing general principles,and make sure you don't get stuck in a passive position.

Good luck 🙂
My goodness...I have never even seen Bird's Opening. I can only imagine it would play somewhat like English, but I am sure it would not be comfortable on blacks end, thats for sure.

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