Originally posted by tomtom232Sure, but it's more difficult. But in any case, cheating in OTB hurts chess even more and should be punished severely. It completely goes against the spirit of the game and poisons it. OTB is essentially the standard of chess to which everything else compares. If OTB is poisoned, all chess is poisoned.
Cheating is possible in OTB chess as well.
What I really wanted to mention is that RHP and OTB ratings may not correlate well.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexYou sound worried.
The point I was making is that using databases is allowed.
Databases contain games played by grand masters.
Lots of grand masters will use a computer to check their opening preparation - plus even after the opening has passed a computer will agree with many of their moves.
What happens if somebody manages to find games that can be won simply b ...[text shortened]... the games have never been played before - nobody knows quite what the criteria is for the test)
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Originally posted by Dragon FireWondered why he'd started this thread Thread 82892
Why am I not surprised to read this?
His standard of play from that only a few months ago and the rate of improvement was totally impossible. Only 6 months ago he was getting tactics totally wrong against me in Game 3872011 but before long he is beating players where I could only dream.
As I have said before, improvement is a long hard slog w ...[text shortened]... was doing was instant and is simply not possible with any number of books and personal coaching.
Originally posted by RagnorakThere is a genuine concern here with regards to specialist book analysis that often extends well into the middlegame in very forcing lines -
You sound worried.
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From another thread:
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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Game 3886585
It's 11.Bxd5!? & the subsequent combination that I would never have seen without Langrock's analysis.
I'd guess that around 25-50% of the analysis in the Modern Morra Gambit is published for the first time & Langrock uses stem-games to show how improvements can be made. There is no game on chesslive.de in that line on move 11.
I recently quoted another book I own in a different thread; The King's Gambit for the Creative Aggressor by Thomas Johansson. Like the Morra book this also contains plenty of the author's original analysis (engine based, no doubt) in a highly sharp, tactical opening.
If anything this is even more refined as it's a blatant repertoire book for each line, meant for Johansson's personal use & published later. It even has certain lines marked "learn by heart!"
Surely you see what I'm getting at?[/i]
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To which the reply was given:
Originally posted by Mark Adkins
...If I were playing someone rated our level and came across moves like yours in the opening of that game, I'd be pretty suspicious, and you can't gainsay this because apparently you yourself have come to the same opinion. Your opponent, not knowing anything other than the game moves, might refer the game to the administrators, for examination..."
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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I would certainly hope I wouldn't hang!
The Modern Morra Gambit - Hannes Langrock
Chapter 3, p.80-82
An early ...d6 and ...Nf6
(p.80)
"The first variation we investigate arises after 1.e4...c5, 2.d4...cxd4, 3.c3...dxc3, 4.Nxc3...d6, 5.Bc4...Nf6
6.e5! gives such a strong initiative that I am recommending only this move...
(p.81)
O. Lorenz - A. Winter
1.e4...c5, 2.d4...cxd4, 3.c3...dxc3, 4.Nxc3...d6, 5.Bc4...Nf6, 6.e5!
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6...Ng4, 7.e6...Ne5, 8.exf7+...Nxf7, 9.Bxf7+?! This can be dangerous, but isn't the strongest way to handle the position.
Correct is 9.Nf3!...e6:...
B) 10.0-0...
B3) 10...d5 (P.Roberts-C. Njotea, Dublin 1993
11.Bxd5!...exd5, 12.Re1+...Be7, 13.Nxd5...Nc6, 14.Bg5 (Black has no satisfactory defence...
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Maybe if you leave Fritz on all night at move 11 it will find Bxd5!? but I would never have played it without Langrock's analysis.
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I also think it's a shame ih8sens is gone, but anyone who knows anything about probability knows that looking at a particular line at move 20 or so in the Traxler & trying to apply it to G.I.P is about as likely as going on holiday, picking up a grain of sand from the beach, throwing it back &
then going back the next day & finding the exact same grain again!
Originally posted by cambridgeianih8sens has actually been banned once before.
Wondered why he'd started this thread Thread 82892
Suddenly all of his games left in the Tournament 2251: "July 2007 Octet Ib 1500-1650" was 'resigned' the same day, 2007-07-10. Reason was 'player banned', TOS rule unknown. A few days later the ban was lifted, reason unknown here too.
Tourney started 2007-07-03, and before he was banned, he won three games and drew one in this particular tournie.
Originally posted by wormwoodSometimes you are just way over the top.
quite a lot of it irrelevant crap. I would've been happy to see him go just for that.
I still haven't read all this thread but I guess he was banned because he said on a recent thread that he was analysing a position in the Traxler with his engine. And certainly he has Traxler games going on so I'm thinking he got booted for that.
Originally posted by FabianFnasThe first time he was banned was because he wanted his subscriber status revogued but the admin misunderstood him and banned him. I remember him saying so in a thread he made after he came back.
ih8sens has actually been banned once before.
Suddenly all of his games left in the Tournament 2251: "July 2007 Octet Ib 1500-1650" was 'resigned' the same day, 2007-07-10. Reason was 'player banned', TOS rule unknown. A few days later the ban was lifted, reason unknown here too.
Torney started 2007-07-03, and before he was banned, he won three games and drew one in this particular tournie.
Originally posted by adam warlockOh, I see. I didn't know.
The first time he was banned was because he wanted his subscriber status revogued but the admin misunderstood him and banned him. I remember him saying so in a thread he made after he came back.
I made wrong conclusions... Sorry. 😞
(The comments below I orginally posted in the thread 'Is this cheating?'😉
I've no particular comment to make about ih8sens as a player, because I don't think I ever played him on RHP. However, I did cross swords with him in this forum on the issue of the Traxler Counter Gambit. (He was a fervent aficionado, myself a sceptic.) I remember him saying that he had consulted some book on the Traxler (written by some Danish player I think) that was based on 2000 hours of 'intelligent' engine analysis of the opening. (I had a quick look at an online review, and it seemed pretty reasonable.) I know he liked to play this opening a lot, given the chance. I personally would have no problem in his or anyone else making use of this analysis, since it's out there in the public domain for anyone to use, though maybe this is another grey area? (Interestingly, the high-powered silicon number-crunchers came to pretty much the same conclusion as established 'human' assessments of the various Traxler lines.)
Actually I feel bad of this situation.
On one hand, if he really is guilty... I had only good feelings about him. Allways friendly and supporting in the forums. So I was duped by him.
On the other hand, if he is not guilty... Then we have all to be worried. I have a tremendous uprise in rating the last two weeks, am I a cheater of that reason, am I even suspected to be one? Every one who has a graph pointing upwards, are they all cheaters?
He didn't play all well in all his games, perhaps he was just concentrating his efforts of some particular interesting games?
I would like to hear his defence in this court from his own mouth. "Dear mr Ih8sens, are you really guilty? What have you to say to your defense?" Because we are all his jury. Have we all the evidence to shout guilty, guilty, and hang him in the nearest tree? Or are there any reasonable doubt?
So, can anyone put up the clear evidence or at least probable suspisions of what he has done?
Please, Ih8sens, with another name or not, please, tell us the facts...
First of all, I am very disappointed for the sad decisition of ban one of the most interesting players in this site. Matt was one of my first "chess friends" I had the lucky to meet here. And of course I have played a lot of games against him, and that's the main reason I'm feeling impotence, because as all of you can check, my first game against him (23/04/07 => he had a 1500 rating) he played the traxler, and the game is a clue of his great and premature knowledge about this particularly line:
Game 3475013
Another game Game 4064745 I had with him proves that his own style was genuine. You can see that he sacrifices his queen to have a sharp and dangerous thread, and I decided to sacrifice my rook to avoid it; after it, he don't wanna risk the game and decided to check me perpetually. When the game ends, he told me that according to fritz, 23...Nh6! was a safe move for me, and 100% sure I would have the game after that move. In my opinion, a cheat player don't take this unnecessary risk.
We always had funny chatty games (not only here, almost in OTB blitz), shareing interesting chess knowledge between us, and I'm pretty sure he's a young chess promise, at the point I have to admit that I always liked to see his games in my free time.
I really trust in a fast increase of the rating if you really start to understand & enjoy chess. Like he had said other times, he liked to play against engines and study many GM's games; and that's other way to improve and climb successfully if you are a pervious player.
For the other hand, you can see his profile and see that he tends to play many unrated games (exactly 109), and you all know that set piece games (90% of him in traxler position) doesn't count in it although it are almost unrated. At this point, I would like to know if mods have taken into account all of this to found cheat evidence. It would be great if them could show us all the games under his indictment..anyways, nothing are going to change. I said that because I don't deny he could use engine in that kind of games that doesn't impact on the rating.
Matt, sé que estás leyendo todo esto. Sólo quiero darte las gracias por las partidas que hemos jugado. Considera el consejo que te di hace poco, y aunque defiendo tu inocencia, sólo tú sabes si lo has hecho (sería triste engañarte a ti mismo). Ya sabes que aquí tienes a un amigo siempre que lo necesites (ojalá algún dia podamos jugar las dos partidas que nos quedan). Mucha suerte en el aprendizaje del español y en todo lo que hagas; confío en que si te lo propones, llegarás lejos. Un saludo.
Originally posted by aGoRessivEplease go read the game game mod faq thread: Thread 72203
First of all, I am very disappointed for the sad decisition of ban one of the most interesting players in this site. Matt was one of my first "chess friends" I had the lucky to meet here. And of course I have played a lot of games against him, and that's the main reason I'm feeling impotence, because as all of you can check, my first game against him (23/ ...[text shortened]... y en todo lo que hagas; confío en que si te lo propones, llegarás lejos. Un saludo.