20 Nov 09
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Originally posted by wormwoodwhat situation? no one should have the right to make up situations like that. and it wasn't only a private urinal he was refused, you know, it's a restroom where AFAIK you have something of a couch, a 2D demonstration board, some quiet place of your own. It's the only place you can "get away", and you might need that in a WC game.
kramnik wasn't refused a toilet, only his private toilet. 🙄 I think that was a perfectly reasonable compromise, given the situation.
I'm pretty sure no normal tournament player would even think of insisting on a private toilet, not even the real 8-year-olds.
it's like your girlfriend taking the key to the bathroom (remember the series "coupling" ) . it's a simple little thing but you just need it to be there 🙂
and besides, he had the right before the cheating accuastion. why would he have to compromise anything because topalov turned out to be a huge jerk?
negative questioning like "ok but why wouldn't you just do the simple such and such" is wrong in these situations in my opinion, it objectively means the foulplay is legitimate.
anyway, all this said, Kramnik himself has stated not showing up for the game was wrong on his side. but I still wouldn't call it childish.
21 Nov 09
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Originally posted by wormwoodBut it wasn't just some 'normal' tournament. It's the world championship match. They're playing under contract. IIRC, the contract granted Kramnik his own restroom. I would have done the same as Kramnik, if only to send a psychological message that I won't be pushed around, neither on, nor off the board.
kramnik wasn't refused a toilet, only his private toilet. 🙄 I think that was a perfectly reasonable compromise, given the situation.
I'm pretty sure no normal tournament player would even think of insisting on a private toilet, not even the real 8-year-olds.
22 Nov 09
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Originally posted by philidor positionAbsolutely. Remember topalov was the FIDE champion and Kramnik the unofficial world champion. And FIDE colluded with Topalovs team to make sure its team won (which didnt happen) Wonder who FIDE is supporting this time around. 😞
[b]kramnik had very little control over the circumstances in elista, and topalov managed to make it his home ground.
