10 May 06
Originally posted by JeeYou got lucky. Plus it was the sacrifice on f7 which exposed his king and that is why I am telling you if you just have to do it, sac the knight on f7.
Game 2059244
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10 May 06
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Originally posted by RahimKI don't know, by move 6 the black knight was trapped. I gave the game to Crafty (v 20.0, 30 seconds per move (ie ply)) - here is what it thinks:
You got lucky. Plus it was the sacrifice on f7 which exposed his king and that is why I am telling you if you just have to do it, sac the knight on f7.
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2006.05.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jee"]
[Black "PPtonny"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "2059244"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nxe5 Nxe5 4.f4 Ng6
( {9:-2.95} 4...Nc6 5.Bc4 Nf6 6.Nc3 Bc5 7.e5 Qe7 {HT} )
5.f5
( {9:-2.99} 5.d3 d5 6.f5 Ne5 7.Bf4 Bd6 8.Nc3 dxe4 9.Bxe5 Bxe5 10.dxe4
)
5...Nf4
( {10:-3.82} 5...Qh4+ 6.g3 Qxe4+ 7.Qe2 Qxe2+ 8.Bxe2 N6e7 9.g4 Nc6 10.
Kd1 Bc5 11.Nc3 Nf6 12.Re1 {HT} )
6.d4 g5
( {9:-0.48} 6...d5 7.Bxf4 dxe4 8.g4 h5 9.Qe2 Nf6 10.g5 Bb4+ 11.Nc3 )
7.fxg6
( {10:-0.43} 7.g3 d5 8.gxf4 dxe4 9.fxg5 Bxf5 10.Nc3 c6 11.Be3 Bb4 )
7...Bh6
( {10:-2.48} 7...Nxg6 8.Nc3 Bb4 9.Bd3 Qf6 10.a3 Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 Nh4 12.
Qe2 d6 13.Qf2 Qxf2+ 14.Kxf2 )
8.gxf7+ Kxf7 9.Bc4+
( {10:+1.49} 9.Bxf4 Bxf4 10.Qf3 Qf6 11.e5 Bxe5 12.Qh5+ Ke6 13.Qxe5+
Qxe5+ 14.dxe5 Kxe5 15.Nc3 Kd6 16.O-O-O+ Kc6 )
9...d5
( {9:-0.60} 9...Kg7 10.Bxf4 Bxf4 11.Rf1 Qg5 12.Qf3 Bd6 13.Kd1 Nf6 14.
e5 )
10.Bxd5+
( {9:-0.17} 10.Bxf4 Bxf4 11.Bxd5+ Kg7 12.Qf3 Qd6 13.e5 Qb4+ 14.Qc3
Qxc3+ 15.Nxc3 Ne7 16.e6 Rf8 )
10...Nxd5 11.Qh5+ Ke6
( {9:-1.29} 11...Kg7 12.O-O Nf4 13.Bxf4 Qxd4+ 14.Kh1 Bxf4 15.Rxf4 Nf6
16.Qg5+ Kf7 17.Nc3 )
12.Qe5+
( {9:+0.64} 12.Bxh6 Ndf6 13.d5+ Ke7 14.Qe5+ Kf7 15.Bf4 Ne7 16.Nc3 Rg8
17.O-O-O Rxg2 18.Qxc7 Qxc7 19.Bxc7 )
12...Kf7 13.O-O+ Kg6
( {12:-0.01} 13...Ndf6 14.Bxh6 Nxh6 15.Qh5+ Kg7 16.Qg5+ Kf7 17.Qh5+ )
14.exd5
( {10:+1.50} 14.Qg3+ Kh5 15.Qf3+ Bg4 16.Qf7+ Kh4 17.g3+ Kh3 18.Qf2 Ne3
19.Bxe3 Bxe3 20.Qxe3 h6 21.Nd2 Qg5 22.Rf4 )
14...Bg7
( {10:-0.20} 14...Bxc1 15.Rxc1 Nh6 16.Nc3 Ng4 17.Qg3 Qd6 18.Qxd6+ cxd6
19.Re1 Rf8 20.Ne4 Rd8 )
15.Qg3+
( {7:+327.60} 15.Qe4+ Kh5 16.Rf5+ Bxf5 17.Qxf5+ Kh4 18.g3# )
15...Kh5 16.Qxg7
( {10:+14.50} 16.Qf3+!! )
16...Ne7
( {11:+10.83} 16...Qe7 17.Qxh8 Bg4 18.h3 Kg6 19.hxg4 Rd8 20.g5 Qg7 21.
Qxg7+ Kxg7 22.c4 Re8 )
17.Qg5# 1-0
Crafty's suggestion of 5. ... Qh4+ looks like refuting the line.
15 May 06
oh well...
Game 2062482
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Guess 5. Bd3 was a gesture of pure madness - but seemed a good idea at the time, but thats probably were it all started to crumble
for sure 5. e5 will have kept some kind of solidity in the center block.
I don't even wanna talk about after that point 😀
Thanks to Zebano anyway for taking the chalenge.
I am gonna work a lil bit on that one and come back if something good happen with it.
Don't wait for me I could be late though...🙂
15 May 06
Originally posted by JeeLooks like 22. Qe2 would have been more to the point, but it doesn't matter as Jee resigned.
oh well...
Game 2062482
😕
Guess 5. Bd3 was a gesture of pure madness - but seemed a good idea at the time, but thats probably were it all started to crumble
for sure 5. e5 will have kept some kind of solidity in the center block.
I don't even wanna talk about after that point 😀
Thanks to Zebano anyway for taking the chalenge.
I am g ...[text shortened]... d come back if something good happen with it.
Don't wait for me I could be late though...🙂
Frankly, when someone 400 rating points weaker than me offers me a piece for a center pawn, I'll take it every time (unless there is a calculable attack immanent).
15 May 06
Originally posted by JeeWith the exception of a Lost knight (which you sacrificed) the postion Is something similair close to this....
oh well...
Game 2062482
😕
Guess 5. Bd3 was a gesture of pure madness - but seemed a good idea at the time, but thats probably were it all started to crumble
for sure 5. e5 will have kept some kind of solidity in the center block.
I don't even wanna talk about after that point 😀
Thanks to Zebano anyway for taking the chalenge.
I am g ...[text shortened]... d come back if something good happen with it.
Don't wait for me I could be late though...🙂
B02/5 Alekhine's Defense....
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/explorer?node=737799&move=4.5&moves=e4.Nf6.e5.Nd5.c4.Nb6.d4&nodes=21720.24911.737749.737750.737797.737798.737799
In this opening White dominates the centre with pawns (by chasing the Knight), yet With (VERY) Careful and exact play (which can be learnt by book or experience) Black can equalise....
You arrive at a similiar postion a Knight down....need I say anymore?
15 May 06
Originally posted by ShinidokiThats a very good example which succeed - where sarcasm failed - to convince me that a similar result can be achieved without sacrificing the knight. A lovely alternative to the king gambit
With the exception of a Lost knight (which you sacrificed) the postion Is something similair close to this....
B02/5 Alekhine's Defense....
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/explorer?node=737799&move=4.5&moves=e4.Nf6.e5.Nd5.c4.Nb6.d4&nodes=21720.24911.737749.737750.737797.737798.737799
You arrive at a similiar postion a Knight down....need I say anymore?
15 May 06
Originally posted by JeeZebano will kill you if you play 3.Nxe5.
Play and learn I guess
Thanks for your reply.
I aint convince it's good or worth it, but eh everything is worth trying it. My oponent did tons of mistakes, so I aint really proud of that first victory with the "Jee are you out of your brain"-Gambit.
Now I am gonna play Zebano and will tell you about the damage if I happen to survive.
Gods of Knights forgive me in advance
It's a dumb move.
15 May 06
Originally posted by Red NightHe has already done so: Game 2062482
Zebano will kill you if you play 3.Nxe5.
It's a dumb move.