Originally posted by EladarWhite has just played 11.Nxd4 - Black to play.
I have a question. In both Greenpawn's example and the original game, white chose to castle instead of taking the hanging knight on d4.
What's the poison I'm not seeing? I play the French and I'd love to know how to punish my opponent if I try offering my knight like that.
The French player must examine tricks winning the d-pawn or e-pawn
on every move. This one seems failry straight forward.
As I was saying:
"The French player must examine tricks winning the d-pawn or e-pawn on every move."
Unless of course you are playing me - I will give them to you.
Game 5958183
What on earth was I doing?
Well a few weeks before I had this.
Game 5863090
I thought I'd be sneaking in a quick draw to lessen the game load.
Have had some fun with that line OTB - but v a good player on here.
No Chance.
(what happened to ericmittens grade - when I played him he was 1700)
It looks like he went on a resignation spree.
Thanks for the second example. I've been playing Qb6, but was thinking about playing Qc7 looking for that exchange, but it appears I can pull off the same basic idea as long as I deveop my bishop to d7 before I take with the knight.
I tried that same idea a few nights ago on FICS without developing my bishop. I hate giving my queen away. 😞
I know the trap you mean - don't feel too bad.
That trap has caught 1000's of players and I am not exagerating.
I have two OTB wins with it and dozens in blitz.
In one OTB game my opponent saw it and to prevent it played 7....a6?
Better give the trap so others can see what we are talking about.
Usually the vic plays 7...Nxd4 and loses the Queen after 8.Nxd4 Qxd4
9.Bd3+
In this case my opponent saw it - and so played a6 to stop Bb5 check. 😀
played in 1982 - cannot recall who was Black, but it happened.
He possibly got his lines mixed up and remembered a6 was played
sometime in this line - he just forgot to slip in Bd7.
See the mess a little a knowledge can get you into.
Edit 1- dug out an old book.
Black was a Mr Green and it was played in 1981.
I remember him. When ever he put your king in check - he would
say "Check" all the time.
I remember playing a mate of mine, Alastair White...
(some story this is. Mr Green, Alastair White - sounds like a game of Cluedo).
Anyway Mr Green was playing a league match going "Check", "Check",
"Check" at 30 seconds intervals.
Alastair mumbled something like he wished he would hurry up and
mate the guy.
After a few more "checks" it went quiet for about 5 minutes then we
suddenly heard Mr Green's opponent retaliating with a loud "check"
Minor bedlam followed but order was soon restored.
Edit2:
Look at the time: 04:49am - I have work at 8.00am.
I've been playing blitz, making moves in a few serious games,
looking at random games on here and posting.
This site is killing me.
Sleep is good.
It was getting late for me (in the US), I was hoping you had just gotten up early to check some games. It's nice to know that people better than me have fallen for the same trap, but still I had checked for that exact trap a couple of moves earlier and saw that my knight was protecting my king and played the moves very quickly and didn't think about the fact that my knight would no longer be there after I moved it.
After I logged off last night I thought about the knight on d4 in the original position you posted retreating to e2, killing two birds with one throw, but after looking at it some more, I think white is still in a very bad position after Bb5. If white wants to preserve the material, he can't castle. His queen is enslaved to king's protection with the checkmate looming. The d2 knight is easily pinned, then it is time for black to double up his rooks on the c file.
Right idea or am I giving white counter play that I'm not seeing?
Quote:
"I was hoping you had just gotten up early to check some games."
Steady on - I'm not that keen.
Though I bet some guys on here have set their alarms to get up early
and crack some skulls.
In the position you mention after Ne2 can Black not just take the a1 Rook?
Post the position to clarify things.
It's been a long long long day. Early to bed tonight.