Go back
Minimalistic e4 Opening Repertoire for lazy pla...

Minimalistic e4 Opening Repertoire for lazy pla...

Only Chess

s
Poet

Fågelsången

Joined
26 Jan 07
Moves
3413
Clock
04 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Thank you, Sir/madame!

I will shoot the author an email. He has a new book out I will ask about the differences.

S

Joined
14 Jul 06
Moves
20541
Clock
04 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sydsad
Thank you, Sir/madame!

I will shoot the author an email. He has a new book out I will ask about the differences.
I flicked through the other book he did which is called The Fascinating King's Gambit which is an incredibly thorough looking tome on the king's bishop's gambit which I don't play.

c

Joined
02 Feb 06
Moves
8557
Clock
04 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sydsad
So, I am bored with my lack of structure in my Opening Repertoire. What would you recommend for a lazy, "tactical" player?

Follow-up question for extra credits: What "compontents" (i.e what responses need extra preperations) are needed in a minimalistic Opening repertoire for white?
1.e4 Anything

Resign.

c

USA

Joined
22 Dec 05
Moves
13780
Clock
04 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sydsad
So, I am bored with my lack of structure in my Opening Repertoire. What would you recommend for a lazy, "tactical" player?

Follow-up question for extra credits: What "compontents" (i.e what responses need extra preperations) are needed in a minimalistic Opening repertoire for white?
The best for "lazy" tactical players are systems- King's Indian Attack as white- this is fun, and little special preparation is needed- and King's Indian Defense against d4 and Pirc defense against e4- look em up (wikipedia is good)

c

Joined
02 Feb 06
Moves
8557
Clock
04 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by chesskid001
The best for "lazy" tactical players are systems- King's Indian Attack as white- this is fun, and little special preparation is needed- and King's Indian Defense against d4 and Pirc defense against e4- look em up (wikipedia is good)
I think somebody doesn't understand the definition of the word "lazy..."

c

USA

Joined
22 Dec 05
Moves
13780
Clock
04 Dec 07
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by cmsMaster
I think somebody doesn't understand the definition of the word "lazy..."
Good point- I'll try again😉 and this one I am sure is right-

if you're lazy, there's nothing that can help you

c

Joined
02 Feb 06
Moves
8557
Clock
04 Dec 07
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by chesskid001
Good point- I'll try again😉 and this one I am sure is right-

if you're lazy, there's nothing that can help you
Still wrong.

1.e4

1...e5 2.d4 exd4 3.Qxd4 - I think this opening's probably much better than it's reputation.

Although, if you're not so sure about that, try the Vienna: 2.Nc3 (maybe even go for the gambit with 3.f4).

1...e6 Advanced (2.d4 3.e5)

1...c6 Advanced (2.d4 3.e5)

1...c5 Grand Prix with 2.Nc3

Pirc - 150 Attack


As black

vs. 1.e4

I'm going to recommend a gambit that I think can be particularly tricky for white with inaccurate play in the Portuguese Gambit: 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4!? You'll have to deal with white's annoying and pesky sideline options on move 3, but that shouldn't take much time to figure out. (3.c4?! c6! is solid, 3.Nc3 isn't trouble either)

vs. 1.d4

1.d4 is just so hard to deal with, IMO. There's positional and sharp lines - but try to find solid stuff without a ton of theory. I think you'll have a very tough time...I'm going to suggest that you simply avoid 1...Nf6 for now, those lines can be very complex. I'd suggest one of two options:

a)QGA, ok it doesn't have the best reputation. But if you play it RIGHT it'll be very good to you, I recommend the c5 variation.

b)QGD, Cambridge Springs. It's got a nice reputation, nice and trappy. Might be good if you can't handle the QGA.


You're welcome, your money can be sent to me ASAP.

g

Joined
22 Aug 06
Moves
359
Clock
05 Dec 07
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

The only 1 e4 opening system that I'm aware of that requires relatively little preparation is the King's Indian Attack (1 e4 2 d3 3 Nd2 4 g3, etc.). Unfortunately, it seldom leads to openings of the tactical nature that you seek.

One idea is to play 1 e4 and 2 f4 against all of the main defenses to 1 e4 except the Scandinavian (1...d5) and Alekhine's Defense (1...Nf6). So, except for the King's Gambit (1 e4 e5 2 f4), the move 2 f4 requires relatively little study. Caro-Kann and French players will usually be in a quandry after you bash out 2 f4! 2 f4 also makes only rare appearances against the Sicilian.

Hope that helps! 🙂

s
Poet

Fågelsången

Joined
26 Jan 07
Moves
3413
Clock
05 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

It sure does! Thank you all for solid advice! Pretending to play King'sGambit vs. almost anything sounds like fun.

c

Joined
02 Feb 06
Moves
8557
Clock
05 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by gaychessplayer
The only 1 e4 opening system that I'm aware of that requires relatively little preparation is the King's Indian Attack (1 e4 2 d3 3 Nd2 4 g3, etc.). Unfortunately, it seldom leads to openings of the tactical nature that you seek.

One idea is to play 1 e4 and 2 f4 against all of the main defenses to 1 e4 except the Scandinavian (1...d5) and Alek ...[text shortened]... 2 f4! 2 f4 also makes only rare appearances against the Sicilian.

Hope that helps! 🙂
Hm, KG is plenty of work on it's own.

g

Joined
22 Aug 06
Moves
359
Clock
05 Dec 07
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by cmsMaster
Hm, KG is plenty of work on it's own.
You're right. There is no easy path that leads to the laurel wreath.

Edited for spelling

D

Joined
09 Mar 05
Moves
1961
Clock
16 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

I was going to suggest the KG, I suck at it, but it's bloody fun to play.

s

Joined
08 Nov 07
Moves
1418
Clock
16 Dec 07
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by gaychessplayer
The only 1 e4 opening system that I'm aware of that requires relatively little preparation is the King's Indian Attack (1 e4 2 d3 3 Nd2 4 g3, etc.). Unfortunately, it seldom leads to openings of the tactical nature that you seek.

One idea is to play 1 e4 and 2 f4 against all of the main defenses to 1 e4 except the Scandinavian (1...d5) and Alek 2 f4! 2 f4 also makes only rare appearances against the Sicilian.

Hope that helps! 🙂
I believe there's a Chessbase Opening CD built around just such a repetoire. Although you can also play 2. Nc3 and 3. f4 against 1... e5 and 1... c5. Against 1... e5 this has the advantage of being much less theoretical than the KG, although the disadvantage is that its also much less sharp and white usually only gets a slight (if any) advantage. Against 1... c5, though, playing 2. Nc3 first prevents the immediate 2... d5, which is supposedly a little better for white (although since I don't play the GPA I can't say whether that's true or not).

As a lazy 1. e4 player who generally doesn't spend much time on openings I play 2. Nc3 and 3. f4 (the Vienna) mostly to get away from theory. I know I'm not going to get any kind of positional advantage with proper play from black, but I'm content to get a playable middle game where the ideas are clear enough to me and where I don't have to worry about going wrong getting there.

That said, since starting to play at RHP I too feel the KG starting to call to me. I mean, why not? I like sharp tactical struggles, and with no restriction on books or opening databases here its probably as good an opportunity as any to try it out.

Edit: just to add, if anyone else wants to experiment with this opening I'll happily play a couple unrated games against you in it (one with each colour) where we can discuss the opening a bit while we play and not have to worry about rating points.

DF
Lord of all beasts

searching for truth

Joined
06 Jun 06
Moves
30390
Clock
16 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
Well, playing 1.e4 makes your life much harder if you want to avoid sharp games.

If you were looking for something a little less brave, why not delve into the d4 territory - try something like the collie system, that can be applied against most black responses and gives white a reasonable game without being too stodgy.
I tend to disagree. 1. e4 is okay if you want tactical games. You just need to control the follow up so as to avoid tons of theory. Hence avoid the Ruy Lopez and main line Sicilians. Follow up 1. ... e5 with 2. f4 and focus on learning this single opening well. 1. ... c5 can be followed with 2. d4 and you have removed tons of opening theory from your opponent.

So all you need to do is find answers to 1. ... e6 and 1. ... c6, everything else is too obscure to worry about.

I focus in my 1st 12 months here on the KGA and MG and am now applying them (successfully I hope) OTB and have switched my study to 1. d4. At the moment I am finding I am in less control of the game but that may change as I develop my preferred lines. I am hoping 1. d4 will surprise those opponents OTB who know me well and expect 1. e4 and that this will result in a few surprise wins.

c

Joined
27 Apr 05
Moves
28376
Clock
16 Dec 07
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
Well, playing 1.e4 makes your life much harder if you want to avoid sharp games.

If you were looking for something a little less bave anrave, why not delve into the d4 territory - try something like the collie system, that can be applied against most black responses and gives white a reasonable game without being too stodgy.
Is that the system that's all bark and no bite .. woof woof 🙂

btw, I have an ultra simplistic repertoire with 1.e4 😏

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.