Originally posted by EladarI guess I don't care whether it's better or worse. The point of the game is winning. Not winning without castling. Or winning without ever moving the c-pawn. or winning with no backwards moves. There should not be a bonus for winning a different way.
How do you know a person played badly simply because the person didn't castle?
I don't know guys, this isn't such a bad idea. Enforced, pregame agreed, relinquished castling could even be one of several chess handicap or odds game options on Red Hot Pawn. Others could include: An extra move or two. Remove a pawn or two. Remove a knight or bishop. With enough data, a 2400 player could be evenly matched with a 1000 player for an exciting game. I think I'd like to see rated odds games on Red Hot π Relinquished castling doesn't mean a player can't reach the same castled position in extra moves so it's not bad play just chess handicap for extra rating.
Edit: lol computers hate me, I made a blank post at first.
Originally posted by byedidiaI totally agree. What,s his next idea? Play snooker with 10 reds, or a football match with 70 minutes. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
I guess I don't care whether it's better or worse. The point of the game is winning. Not winning without castling. Or winning without ever moving the c-pawn. or winning with no backwards moves. There should not be a bonus for winning a different way.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Nonsense. The other player also gets 'two moves on the trot', so it's even.
In the pursuit of interesting chess I have to agree.
Also as castling is in effect two moves. After you castle your opponent has two
moves on the trot. That one simple rule change will make defunct all opening theory.
Originally posted by steve45Snooker can actually be played with 10 reds, I should know, I've been in a couple 10 red tournaments... it just makes for quicker games π
I totally agree. What,s his next idea? Play snooker with 10 reds, or a football match with 70 minutes. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
As for the non-castling idea, well it would give people an incentive not to castle, which could make for more attacking, dynamic chess,
but probably best reserved for a special themed tournament or something.
Originally posted by ketchuploverI'm sure these ideas are just part of the rich strategic pageant of the game and no more or less worthy than any other. Whilst I have had several good battles where neither side castled I can only think of one RHP game about four years ago where I beat the castled king.
An uncastled player should get a scoring and or rating bonus after defeating a castled player. Agree?
And you can read my original annotations here: Annotation 1501
Of the uncastled either side games this one was one of my most recent to finish:
Great idea; people should be more open-minded. I have a few ideas:
1) win without moving your queen - 5 points;
2) subbuteo chess - you have to move your pieces by 'flicking to kick', and captures are successful only if you knock over the object piece with the piece you flicked at it.
Subuteo Chess is the future.
How about anti-touch move chess.
You move a piece or pawn and your opponent MUST unmove it from where
you placed it and make another legal with it instead. (if he can)
You want to play 1.e4 so you play 1.e3. Your opponent must make the move 1.e4.
You want to play 1.Nf3 you play 1.Nh3. Only legal move is for your opponent to
play the Knight to f3.
I'm sure you could make up a nice problem with this rule. Here is clumsy effort.
Originally posted by greenpawn34GP, I modified your problem a little, so that Black is also forced to move into check on the first move, which I think is nice.
Subuteo Chess is the future.
How about anti-touch move chess.
You move a piece or pawn and your opponent MUST unmove it from where
you placed it and make another legal with it instead. (if he can)
You want to play 1.e4 so you play 1.e3. Your opponent must make the move 1.e4.
You want to play 1.Nf3 you play 1.Nh3. Only legal move is for your ...[text shortened]... t to f3.
I'm sure you could make up a nice problem with this rule. Here is clumsy effort.