23 Feb 07
Originally posted by gaychessplayerWell just based on my big database from chessbase, after e4, e6, d4, d5, exd5, exd5 20119 games have been played. Only one move 4. c4 scores above 50%.
Unless one is in a zugzwang position in the endgame, how can Black be equal in a symmetrical position when it is White's move? I bet that if we do a search on chesslab.com that White has a plus score in the symmetrical variation. I'll check it out when I get time. 🙂
23 Feb 07
Originally posted by zebanoI can't argue with the facts! I was obviously wrong about the exchange French being a plus for White. Live and learn, I guess 🙂
Well just based on my big database from chessbase, after e4, e6, d4, d5, exd5, exd5 20119 games have been played. Only one move 4. c4 scores above 50%.
23 Feb 07
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Originally posted by gaychessplayerFirst off, I forgot to add that while 4. c4 was over 50%, it's only at 52%, below the average 54% white usually scores. In my OTB play, I have found weaker players play it to get a draw against me, and they usually fail as I have more experience in those middlegames. Stronger players play it to get an equal game where they simply outplay me, and they often can, but it's usually a gruelling 50+ move game where I made plenty of moves good enough to draw and missed one move leading to an inferior endgame.
I can't argue with the facts! I was obviously wrong about the exchange French being a plus for White. Live and learn, I guess 🙂
However, all this shows is that the rating system is accurate.
25 Feb 07
I've decided to play give the Alekhine a try against 1. e4, as suggested by some of you. Once I have more time to dedicate to chess, I might put some time into learning the Sicilian or French.
Still unsure on what to play against 1. d4, though. The Dutch is a good suggestion, but I suck at it for some reason. 😛
25 Feb 07
Originally posted by Heroic MetoolI use the Alekhine a lot in blitz - seems hardly anyone knows theory and nearly 50% of opponents, if not more use 2.Nc3 (I play 2...d5 going into a Scandi) about 30-45% use 2.e5 and the rest play something else....
I've decided to play give the Alekhine a try against 1. e4, as suggested by some of you. Once I have more time to dedicate to chess, I might put some time into learning the Sicilian or French.
Still unsure on what to play against 1. d4, though. The Dutch is a good suggestion, but I suck at it for some reason. 😛
25 Feb 07
Originally posted by Heroic Metoolplay 1. ... c6
I've decided to play give the Alekhine a try against 1. e4, as suggested by some of you. Once I have more time to dedicate to chess, I might put some time into learning the Sicilian or French.
Still unsure on what to play against 1. d4, though. The Dutch is a good suggestion, but I suck at it for some reason. 😛
if 2. e4, it is Caro-Kann, which rocks
if 2. c4, it becomes a Slav, which is one I like for black...
if the white player plays 1. d4, and then transposes it to Caro-Kann with 2. e4, they are already at a slight unofficial disadvantage:
they played d4, meaning that they do not like the positions arising from 1. e4 games...
you should take advantage of this...
and if they keep it Slav, well, have fun
i enjoy those positions a lot...
25 Feb 07
Originally posted by cmsMasterhelp me out here...
I use the Alekhine a lot in blitz - seems hardly anyone knows theory and nearly 50% of opponents, if not more use 2.Nc3 (I play 2...d5 going into a Scandi) about 30-45% use 2.e5 and the rest play something else....
i have no idea what to do as white against 1. ... Nf6
i usually play 2. e5 without any idea of what i'm trying to accomplish...
help.
25 Feb 07
Originally posted by rubberjaw30Basically white wants to take over the center, black's giving white a chance to attack the knight and grab the whole center. Black's idea is that, sure white will have the center, but black gets to attack it. White has two usual plans.
help me out here...
i have no idea what to do as white against 1. ... Nf6
i usually play 2. e5 without any idea of what i'm trying to accomplish...
help.
1.Take it all, and risk overextension, i.e. 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.exd6 exd6 6.Nf3 Nc6
or just play calmly
2. 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3,d4 e6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.exd6 exd6
26 Feb 07
Originally posted by cmsMasterthanks...
Basically white wants to take over the center, black's giving white a chance to attack the knight and grab the whole center. Black's idea is that, sure white will have the center, but black gets to attack it. White has two usual plans.
1.Take it all, and risk overextension, i.e. 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.exd6 exd6 6.Nf3 Nc6
or just play calmly
2. 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3,d4 e6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.exd6 exd6
with that, i realize that i usually follow the c4 line, and like u said... i get over extended...
i like the second option much better, thanks
26 Feb 07
Originally posted by Diet Cokeur overly optimistic...
Move 1!
1. g4!! Black Resigns 1-0
hasn't someone on this site already refuted the Grob?
and if not on this site, i read about a refutation in a magazine...
some GM refuted it in a game...
the Grob is dead...
1. h4?! is better than the Grob
26 Feb 07
Originally posted by Diet Cokepeople only play the Grob praying that black will follow up with 1. ... d5 2. Bg2 Bxg4
You're just in denial.
anyone who knows anything about the Grob knows that 2. ... Bxg4 is terrible for black, and fairly undefendable...
i think...
anyway, grob stinks, period...
here's my refutal...
1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 c6!! 3. White resigns 0-1