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Originally posted by greenpawn34
No. You should have played 1.Qxf6+ winning with the Knight fork.
You must be joking right? Qxf6+ is a blunder, this is blitz not correspondence chess. Analyse Rf3 in your head and tell me what he can do to save the game in 10 seconds.

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Forget Blitz and C.C. this is a Chess position.

1.Rh3 stops the mate but 1.Qxf6+ wins it outright.

(Even in Blitz it's most likely the best move if you only have 10 seconds left.
You have a few seconds to snatch his remaining pawns and make it a draw.)

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greenpawn: While I agree with you that Qxf6+ is a nice combination and that understanding that combination is worthwhile, I disagree that this is what the OP overlooked, because you are implying that it is the only move that wins and we know that is not true. The OP overlooked the mate threat and could have won routinely with any number of moves. For example, my first choice in that position in a time pressure situation would have been the "boring" Qf5, which is just about as effective as the more spectacular Qxf6+.

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Originally posted by AlboMalapropFoozer
[b]greenpawn: While I agree with you that Qxf6+ is a nice combination and that understanding that combination is worthwhile, I disagree that this is what the OP overlooked, because you are implying that it is the only move that wins and we know that is not true. The OP overlooked the mate threat and could have won routinely with any num ...[text shortened]... ld have been the "boring" Qf5, which is just about as effective as the more spectacular Qxf6+.[/b]
Why not Rf3 putting him in zugzwang?

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We are like a bunch of necrophiliacs on this one.

1.Rf3 1.Rg3 1.Qf5 these are all good - anything that stops the mate in one is good.

It's horses for course.
Given any position I always look for the forcing moves, checks, sacs etc..

If I was shown this position without knowing what happened I would have
gone 1.Qxf6+ etc and doubt if I would have seen the mate in one.

sac check, sac check, Knight check, Knight takes Queen. 1-0
and there is no danger of walking into a mate in one as it's all with a check.

"I fear no one when I give check." Some famous chess player said that.

I like the clockwork precision of 1.Qxf6+ it would not look out of place
in a book of combinations (where indeed there are often altenative ways to win).

So horses for courses.
Some players look at their King safety first.
Me. I'm always looking to force replies that benefit me.

As for insisting it was the only move.
Well that was just me trying to get into spirit in which I thought the OP intended.

I thought anyone who comes on and says they play like a grandmother is up for a laugh.

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Its not horses for courses. How many moves will it take to win

1. For Greenpawn's method - 20-30 moves to mate him
2. For Rf3?

Don't forget that even if this were CC there are players who will carry on and prolong the game for two weeks.

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Originally posted by CCNoob
Its not horses for courses. How many moves will it take to win

1. For Greenpawn's method - 20-30 moves to mate him
2. For Rf3?

Don't forget that even if this were CC there are players who will carry on and prolong the game for two weeks.
Not only by your own admission did you play like a grandmother,
you are beginning to sound like one as well. 😉

My way it's over. There can only be one outcome.

Your way there is still a possibility, as happened in the game,
that you will still walk into a mate in one.
You missed it once, you may miss it it again.

It's best to clear the field of threats with checks. Then there is nothing to miss.

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1 - CC gives us a position in which he made a wrong move and his opponent mated him
2 - GP points out the combination that could have been played instead
3 - CC is angry
4 - GP is angry
5 - HK is angry
6 - chessgeeks fight!

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GP not angry.
GP never get angry.
GP likes winding up CC cos CC is friend (and he knows I'm right).
HK fed up 'cos he missed the Qxf6+ combination.
GP upset at being called a geek.
GP suddenly angry......
GP off to the Religious Forum to seek salvation and sanctuary

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
GP off to the Religious Forum to seek salvation and sanctuary
thats not gonna work...

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..You are right.

They kept going about some Jesus fellah.....

....what's his grade?.....what opening does he play?....more to the point.

What would he play in this position?

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