ok, im sorry if i offended any of you, and by the way I dont use an engine. I don't even play like an engine, I sacrifice in about 80 percent of my games. Ill change my profile 🙂. I like the site , its fun i was just saying playing level is lower then icc. just a coment , jesus
To all: I don't think that we should assume that just because someone said something we consider to be rude, that person is necessarily cheating by using a program. Let's give people the benefit of the doubt here.
Crazycohen: My understanding is that the purpose of correspondence chess is to provide a place to help improve your middlegames and endgames. In a normal OTB game, if you opponent has superior book knowledge to you in terms of knowing all of the lines of a particular opening, that person will have an advantage throughout the game because they will gain positional advantages through superior opening play that will usually result in you being at a disadvantage in the middle game and a severe disadvantage in the endgame. When you play correspondence chess, you level the playing field for opening play because every can access the same books and databases. This shifts the focus towards the middle and end game, when books are no longer helpful, and allows you to improve your play.
I think most people here will agree that the level of play possible in a correspondence game is usually higher than what is typically seen in an OTB game just for that reason.
Oh, and one more thing, you do realize that our current #1 player has beaten Gary Kasparov in an OTB game before, right? I for one would think twice before doubting his ability to play chess well. 🙂
-mike
Originally posted by legionnaireI must agree that correspondence chess is a bit more challenging. From my own experience, it is actually MUCH more challenging. To use myself as an example, in normal "real life" chess games I win approx. 4 out of every 5 games I play. If you look at my profile you'll see I LOSE more than I win here at RHP (for now, he he).
To all: I don't think that we should assume that just because someone said something we consider to be rude, that person is necessarily cheating by using a program. Let's give people the benefit of the doubt here.
Crazycohen: My understanding is that the purpose of correspondence chess is to provide a place to help improve your middlegames and ...[text shortened]... right? I for one would think twice before doubting his ability to play chess well. 🙂
-mike
Now, I've made it no secret here that I don't really like that there is the use of databases and books. Nonetheless, it is within the rules and I don't blame my opponent if they use them. I can understand crazycohen and how he feels about it. Make no mistake, Tebb, bbarr, curator, and the other top twenty are fantastic chess players with or without the databases and books. However, using these tools against someone who doesn't is akin to bringing a gun to a knife fight. The guy with the knife better be pretty darn clever and good.
Anyway, that's my rant for the day.
crazycohen, I hope you come to love RHP as much as I do. There are many great things here, and I think in time you'll come to see what I mean.
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The difference between OTB and correspondence ratings can be a big one, I know a player who is 1800 OTB and 2400 ICCF. They are different, although a really strong correspondence player is usually good OTB player too, and vice versa. It depends a lot on how much time and effort one spends for each move. For example I play OTB style, so my correspondence rating will propably be lower than my OTB rating. And I am not a good player anyway 🙂
BTW I started a thread to ask how many here have OTB rating, please someone respond, so we can learn more about the difference between RHP and other ratings. Someone here must have OTB rating...
I used to have OTB rating many years ago - but you have to play so many tournament games to get classified.
However pressure of work caused me to cut back on chess due to lack of time. That's why these on-line sites are so great, as it still provides the opportunity to play a few games without hassle of travel etc.
This could also be the reason why you aren't having much look getting replies. Good luck anyway.
Maybe. But based on my experiences, many online chess sites have lots of OTB players who have official rating. Speaking of ICC, perhaps even majority of players there have OTB rating. I can´t see reasons why correspondence chess sites would be different?
I mean in threads about ratings I have read people are giving estimates of how RHP/OTB ratings correlate, so surely they must have OTB experience and official rating...? How can people make such comparisons otherwise?
So far, based on what people here say, my impression is RHP ratings are clearly lower than most OTB or official correspondence ratings, but if we have no reliable comparison, it is hard to know whether it´s true or not.
The reason I´m asking this is because I want to know more about my level as a chess player 🙂
Originally posted by FinnpatzerUnless you play OTB I do not think you can really rate yourself that accurately.
Maybe. But based on my experiences, many online chess sites have lots of OTB players who have official rating. Speaking of ICC, perhaps even majority of players there have OTB rating. I can´t see reasons why correspondence chess sites would be different?
I mean in threads about ratings I have read people are giving estimates of how RHP/OTB ratings corr ...[text shortened]...
The reason I´m asking this is because I want to know more about my level as a chess player 🙂
Lets face facts, you have no idea who you are playing on RHP - it maybe a strong player or just a non-carbon lifeform ! 🙂
One idea, some Chess machines claim to be able to rate your play (maybe they have been calibrated against players of known strength), maybe this would work if you do not want to start playing tournaments..?
Actually I play in tournaments and have OTB rating (1500ish), but I don´t have official correspondence rating. That is the main reason why I am interested of how RHP ratings correlate with official correspondence ratings.
The reason I would be interested to know about OTB ratings of RHP players is simply curiosity...correspondence chess is new to me and it would be cool to know 🙂
Yes I agree you can never know how strong your opponent is, but if you have bigger "sample" 🙂 of players, it can at least give some direction. I hope no one here cheats with computers, and I´m sure majority of players here are honest people who just want to enjoy playing chess. 🙂
I tried older version of Chessmaster and it gave me 1700-1750. So it was inaccurate in my case. It is possible it was calibrated based on USCF ratings (?). They are somewhat inflated compared to ELO and SELO (finnish) ratings, but not as much as 200-250 points...
Originally posted by crazycohenI apolgize about the chess engine crack. I agree and disagree on some points here posted by you and others about the top players on this site.... and your rating of 1900 USCF.
ok, im sorry if i offended any of you, and by the way I dont use an engine. I don't even play like an engine, I sacrifice in about 80 percent of my games. Ill change my profile 🙂. I like the site , its fun i was just saying playing level is lower then icc. just a coment , jesus
It's hard to guess your own rating. I was rated 1284 USCF back in 1995 and figure myself to be much better now. If I had to guess I would hope I play about 1400 or even 1600 perhaps, but until I go back I won't know.
I agree with you about Database. I don't use them unless I name the game "I use books and data base this game-you too." or something similar.
Anyway, and either way... I am sure if I or you were to use data-base info our ratings would be much stronger, like most top players here.
But that doesn't help your game at the wooden tables. I suppose it is a good teaching tool for other games, but I want my rating to reflect my chess skills, not my study skills.
Your last profile seemed like you were just a troll coming to this site to upset people... so I laid a flame on you. Like I said, sorry. I checked out the game where you mated rather quick vs. a 1400 odd player. Nice. A computer could have done that... but I take your word you did it.
Have a good one, and enjoy this site for what it is. (not a joke, but also not a site to have your pieces profesionally removed from the board)
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