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Mel Kirwan

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Yes,K+2n cannot force mate, although if the weaker side makes a mistake mate is possible. Some K+2n v K+P can be won


Was the law changed do you know?

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Originally posted by Tengu
Oh, and the trouble with K+2N vs K+P is that the longest possible win is 115 moves so can quite easily fall foul to the 50 move rule.
Isn't the count reset after each pawn move?

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Originally posted by Kirwan
Yes,K+2n cannot force mate, although if the weaker side makes a mistake mate is possible. Some K+2n v K+P can be won


Was the law changed do you know?
Certainly for a time, I think for a period during the 1980s and 1990s, 75 moves were allowed in the following endings, each side of course having a King, and the other men being any of the following : -
Q v B+B; Q v B+N; N+N v P; Q+P(on the 7th rank) v Q; R+B v R.
However there was a post a few days ago saying this ruling had been rescinded, but I can't remember in which thread.

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Originally posted by Heroic Metool
Isn't the count reset after each pawn move?
After a pawn move or a capture the 50 move rule thing is reset.

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Originally posted by Essex 3
Certainly for a time, I think for a period during the 1980s and 1990s, 75 moves were allowed in the following endings, each side of course having a King, and the other men being any of the following : -
Q v B+B; Q v B+N; N+N v P; Q+P(on the 7th rank) v Q; R+B v R.
However there was a post a few days ago saying this ruling had been rescinded, but I can't remember in which thread.
Adding to the above note, for a time in the 1980s there was a 100 move rule for the endings given; but in 1988 this was reduced to 75 moves

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Originally posted by millerman
I knew you could do it, but i made a bit of a mess of it. It was the first time i've ever been in that situation so i've learn from my error.

Game 1681285
At last, i managed it.....

Game 1785024

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Gratz 🙂

PS. @kirwan a w8ting move like Rd5 is the key

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Originally posted by Testrider
Gratz 🙂

PS. @kirwan a w8ting move like Rd5 is the key
Thanks Testrider,

He did make me work for it though, but i wasn't in a hurry this time round :🙂

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Originally posted by millerman
At last, i managed it.....

Game 1785024
that took you Ages....there are faster methods of Mating with the rook

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
that took you Ages....there are faster methods of Mating with the rook
Do you have any examples of this?

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Originally posted by millerman
Do you have any examples of this?
I think my example mentioned earlier in this thread was a little better.

Your opponent's king was already close to the other end of the board, you didn't need to force it to the other side.

e.g. 66. Rh5 Ke6 67. Kg7 etc.

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Originally posted by lausey
I think my example mentioned earlier in this thread was a little better.

Your opponent's king was already close to the other end of the board, you didn't need to force it to the other side.

e.g. 66. Rh5 Ke6 67. Kg7 etc.
Cool,

TBH- I was after a quick checkmate, i just wanted to make sure i achieved it.
The example shown earlier was i think a opponent who just made life very easy for the winner, but my guy tried to hang in there for as long as possible and make things as akward as possible too.

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Originally posted by millerman
Thanks Testrider,

He did make me work for it though, but i wasn't in a hurry this time round :🙂
The trick of course is that the rook moves first. The rook can actually move to any legal square and it's still mate in three

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