26 Jan 07
I'm new here and enjoying the play. However, I'm curious about how the rating factor is determined. Don't really want any algebra formulas, just simple Laymen language. Does number of moves, win-loss ratio, pieces left on board at checkmate, etc. Any help and information is appreciated. thanks!
26 Jan 07
Originally posted by jhardYou basically play about 16 points.
I'm new here and enjoying the play. However, I'm curious about how the rating factor is determined. Don't really want any algebra formulas, just simple Laymen language. Does number of moves, win-loss ratio, pieces left on board at checkmate, etc. Any help and information is appreciated. thanks!
If you beat a stronger guy then you get more than 16, if you beat a weaker guy you get fewer than 16.
But your rating is still provisional until you've plaed 20 games, so the rules for rating calculating is somewhat different. Might appear erratic but is correct anyway.
You'll see, the system calculates it automatically.
26 Jan 07
Originally posted by jhardnumber of moves and pieces left on board are completely irrelevant
I'm new here and enjoying the play. However, I'm curious about how the rating factor is determined. Don't really want any algebra formulas, just simple Laymen language. Does number of moves, win-loss ratio, pieces left on board at checkmate, etc. Any help and information is appreciated. thanks!
26 Jan 07
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any finished game is a win, loss or draw. doesn't matter in how many moves or how it's ended (a win/loss may be by checkmate or resigning). so, the score for a game is just 1-0 or 0-1 or 0.5-0.5.
then, based on (score. your and opp rating), a new rating is calculated.
26 Jan 07
Originally posted by jhardSee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELO_rating_system If you use the analysis board and opening books/databases deduct 500 points from your CC rating to get a comparable OTB rating.
I'm new here and enjoying the play. However, I'm curious about how the rating factor is determined .... Any help and information is appreciated. thanks!
26 Jan 07
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The post that was quoted here has been removedOTB is a sum of your ability under time pressure to :-
- analyse
- play the opening, middle and endgame
- use your own abilities without outside help
If you use opening books/databases it means you are playing at 2500 level for those stages, so you need to re-adjust for this infringement of FIDE rules. If you are using the analysis board you are also playing much higher than your OTB capability and so you need to re-adjust too.
If OTB had no time pressure, you could use analysis boards and books not only would that be a circus but that is not chess, you would have to call it something else.
The moral to this - learn your chess "properly", your chess is only as good as it is OTB.
26 Jan 07
Originally posted by z00tIt depends on the database. If you are using the largest ones, the average player whose moves are contained therein is closer to 2000.
If you use opening books/databases it means you are playing at 2500 level for those stages, so you need to re-adjust for this infringement of FIDE rules. If you are using the analysis board you are also playing much higher than your OTB capability and so you need to re-adjust too.
Players over 2500 author novelties as a rule at some point in their games, following established moves only when they are playing out an arranged (or mutually desired) draw.
27 Jan 07
Originally posted by WulebgrStill that constitutes "help" unavailable OTB and so results in the CC player playing out of his skin relative to his OTB play. Compounded with the lack of time pressure it is similar to a player playing against an engine and then using the pause button when it his turn, moving the pieces around and then restarting the clock. Are those results that the player would garner in OTB conditions?
It depends on the database. If you are using the largest ones, the average player whose moves are contained therein is closer to 2000.
Players over 2500 author novelties as a rule at some point in their games, following established moves only when they are playing out an arranged (or mutually desired) draw.