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[fen]r1bk2nr/pppp1ppp/2n5/1N6/5q2/8/PPPNBPPP/R2Q1RK1 w - - 1 10[/fen]
Game 845365
the Fritzy monster has played 9.. Qf4
Originally posted by Siskin
c4 looks reasonable
or perhaps Re1
i do not like Re1 because ... it will tend to lead to exchanges of our rook for fritzies ... we want to keep our rooks on and go for the throat .. we already have a half open file - with fritz's king at the end of it! ... our rooks may well want to use use that .. lets leave that decision till later and do now the things we have to do now ... getting our d2 knight across that big paddock etc

between a4 and c4 ... i prefer a4 ... we are still in book it seems and fritz is not .... and a4 leaves fritz's queen with two extra useless moves - chewing up fritzies processor.

10 Bf3 Nd4 will force the exchange of a minor piece (our advanced knight) and maybe even lead to queen exchanges ... i do not like that.

can we just play Nc4 now? why is g3 before Nc4 better? this i cannot see.

no1marauder
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Originally posted by flexmore
i do not like Re1 because ... it will tend to lead to exchanges of our rook for fritzies ... we want to keep our rooks on and go for the throat .. we already have a half open file - with fritz's king at the end of it! ... our rooks may well want to use use that .. lets leave that decision till later and do now the things we have to do now ... getting our d ...[text shortened]... i do not like that.

can we just play Nc4 now? why is g3 before Nc4 better? this i cannot see.
The main problems I have with Nc4 now is that: A) It's not forcing and allows Fritzie to develop its Knight immediately; and B) With the Q at f4, our Bishop is tied up defending the Knight at c4 and can't move, blocking the e file and preventing it from going to f3 which looks like it's best spot eventually.

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We went with a forcing move before, let's continue in the same vein: g3. Fritz moves the Queen (again) we advance.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The main problems I have with Nc4 now is that: A) It's not forcing and allows Fritzie to develop its Knight immediately; and B) With the Q at f4, our Bishop is tied up defending the Knight at c4 and can't move, blocking the e file and preventing it from going to f3 which looks like it's best spot eventually.
A) Oh well, not all moves must be inmediate threats. Be patient.
B) That's why 10. g3 is interesting. Black must retreat his Q to f6 or most probably to h6.
Two games you must to see: Mieses-Chigorin, and Botterill-Stapples
(the second is an improvement on the former).
BTW, I have not completely discarded 10. c4 as an option.

Cheers

P.S.: I must to stay in bed by medical prescription, at least for the next 2 weeks. In spite of it, I'll try to continue playing my games, this included of course.

Corsair
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Originally posted by LittleBear
A) Oh well, not all moves must be inmediate threats. Be patient.
B) That's why 10. g3 is interesting. Black must retreat his Q to f6 or most probably to h6.
Two games you must to see: Mieses-Chigorin, and Botterill-Stapples
(the second is an improvement on the former).
BTW, I have not completely discarded 10. c4 as an option.

Cheers

P.S.: I mus ...[text shortened]... next 2 weeks. In spite of it, I'll try to continue playing my games, this included of course.
I hope you are alright mate.

L

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Originally posted by Corsair
I hope you are alright mate.

Thanks Corsair! I feel fine, but my doctor insists 🙁
Shhhhh! Please, don't tell him I'm disobeying his indications!

Cheers

TSD
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Originally posted by no1marauder
B) With the Q at f4, our Bishop is tied up defending the Knight at c4 and can't move, blocking the e file and preventing it from going to f3 which looks like it's best spot eventually.
mmm there is no knight at C4 ??? I'm obviously missing something here, please explain.

no1marauder
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Originally posted by The Swine Down Hope
mmm there is no knight at C4 ??? I'm obviously missing something here, please explain.
The post is discussing why I don't like Nc4; A and B are the main reasons why.

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I like bishop to f3 because it opens everything up and it puts pressure on the diagonal of fritzes rook and knight. Plus it opens up our queen to move out.

Bishop to f3 is my vote

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Do you think fritz will move his knight to open up his rook on the kings side?

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Originally posted by tmetzler
Ok, In that case.

I would suggest my pet opening f4, but the collective knowledge among RHP'ers on this system is probably quite a bit lower than the others, not to mention exposing our King so early, is probably just asking for Fritz to hurt us.

c3, I like that idea, just because it is something I've been thinking about giving a try for awhile and ...[text shortened]... like the opportunity to read the thought process of some of the better players on the site.

Not c3!! I played that against fritz and got myself crushed! I'll go with d4 and he will prolbaly reply Nf6.

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Whats our plan? 🙂

d
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i've just checked Fritz's moves - it looks like he's using an engine. just thought you might like to know.🙄

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11. Nc4 ..... .

no1marauder
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I agree. Nc4 aggressively posts the Knight and opens the Queen file for operations. If Black plays a6, we can play Nd4 forcing an exchange of knights where our Queen get a nice post on a half open file. I say keep the pressure on the beast; send the cavalry to c4!

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