right, right, everyone's so sympathetic, until they lose points to a sandbagger. Im sure you will just smile. and not care at all..🙄
Its ony because i pointed this out, and the usual assortment of antagonistic posters, jumps on his side, to rile against me.
OK, so no problem, ill start losing points now,then demand to play higher rated players, and win back my points.
This should be intresting. Its ok, according to all of you, so who cares..? 😏
Like i said, no morals, or sense of ethics anymore...😞
Originally posted by GrandmousterI bet you would have kept playing on and not have gone to your mom if she had been seriously ill. Taking care of your rating is waaaay more important. Talking about no morals or sense of ethics..
right, right, everyone's so sympathetic, until they lose points to a sandbagger. Im sure you will just smile. and not care at all..🙄
Its ony because i pointed this out, and the usual assortment of antagonistic posters, jumps on his side, to rile against me.
OK, so no problem, ill start losing points now,then demand to play higher rated players, and w ...[text shortened]... ding to all of you, so who cares..? 😏
Like i said, no morals, or sense of ethics anymore...😞
Originally posted by GrandmousterYour mother must be so proud.
right, right, everyone's so sympathetic, until they lose points to a sandbagger. Im sure you will just smile. and not care at all..🙄
Its ony because i pointed this out, and the usual assortment of antagonistic posters, jumps on his side, to rile against me.
OK, so no problem, ill start losing points now,then demand to play higher rated players, and w ...[text shortened]... ding to all of you, so who cares..? 😏
Like i said, no morals, or sense of ethics anymore...😞
Im playing this guy in two games right now
http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=123482
And Im not upset at all, I look at it like as good learning experience against a player who would otherwise not want to waste time on me. It will probably cost me upwards of 50 pts. But I dont care bc it all evens out because it doesnt change my ability. Im just underrated and after I beat some lower competition my rating will be back normal again and I got the privelege of playing a 2150. 🙂
Yea, unfortunate for his family. If it happend to me, i would be upset too.
But when i would start playing again, i would realise i was stronger then my rating, and would not feel good playing opponents higher rated then my current rating.
I might tell the caln leader what happened, and if it was no problem with the players, then we can play some games.
But to play, and know your stronger then your rating, and not care, and take points, is deceitfull.
Maybe people dont like losing points, to a lower rated sandbagger, and would prefer not to play them.
I see most posters here dont have much problem with this slight moral transgression.
It reflects their current sense of "fair play" and honesty level
Originally posted by GrandmousterI think galaxy's mother is probably the head of an international conspiracy to reduce chess player's ratings, Galaxy himself was probably not in on it and set up by his own mother to be the fall guy, but the medical staff and hospital administration stafff must have been in in on it too.
Yea, unfortunate for his family. If it happend to me, i would be upset too.
But when i would start playing again, i would realise i was stronger then my rating, and would not feel good playing opponents higher rated then my current rating.
I might tell the caln leader what happened, and if it was no problem with the players, then we can play some gam ...[text shortened]... slight moral transgression.
It reflects their current sense of "fair play" and honesty level
Originally posted by GrandmousterI played 4 games (1 win, 1 loss and 2 still in progress) against him while his rating was low. I asked him about the dip and he explained that his mum was sick in the hospital. We played on. I was losing a game badly and told him I'd resign but I was going to drag it out a bit to see if he couldn't beat a few more people first. He said thats ok he almost had another game won, and I realized how stupid it was so I just resigned the game.
right, right, everyone's so sympathetic, until they lose points to a sandbagger. Im sure you will just smile. and not care at all..🙄
Its ony because i pointed this out, and the usual assortment of antagonistic posters, jumps on his side, to rile against me.
OK, so no problem, ill start losing points now,then demand to play higher rated players, and w ...[text shortened]... ding to all of you, so who cares..? 😏
Like i said, no morals, or sense of ethics anymore...😞
Originally posted by GrandmousterSo he should rather play opponents who don't have any chance to win against him? I bet you would complain if that happened to you, too. And besides, most clan leaders wouldn't accept a challenge in which one of their players is put up against a player with a similar rating who is actually playing at a much higher level (if I understand the term correctly, that would indeed be sandbagging).
Yea, unfortunate for his family. If it happend to me, i would be upset too.
But when i would start playing again, i would realise i was stronger then my rating, and would not feel good playing opponents higher rated then my current rating.
Everybody who has been playing here for a while will have had games against players who were far below their normal rating at that time. Everybody who has been playing here for a while will also have had games against players with an inflated rating, or players who resigned or left the games to be timed out because they had more important things happening in their life at that time. It evens out over time.
Thanks for everyone trying to help, I appretiate it but I want to get one more point across (or try) to Grandmouster. Ok, so, the definition of a sandbagger is to deliberately lose points in order to play LOWER RATED PLAYERS. If you want me to do what you suggest, and play people only around my rating to get my rating back up, THAT would be sandbagging, not trying to play higher rated people. And why would I deliberately lose points in hundreds of games just so I can manage a split with you and take 10 extra points.
And like I said before, I'd be more than happy to give you your 10 points back. Because I know this can't be about sandbagging, because that's not what happened, so it must be about something else.
Originally posted by stevetoddI think i saw that episode in Nowhere Man !
I think galaxy's mother is probably the head of an international conspiracy to reduce chess player's ratings, Galaxy himself was probably not in on it and set up by his own mother to be the fall guy, but the medical staff and hospital administration stafff must have been in in on it too.
Originally posted by GrandmousterOk as stated before no one was complaining when Mr. Galaxy Shield was on his way down. Many of "his" points were probably gained by lower rated players who did not really "earn" them and now they were rated highr than they should have been which made them easy prey for other higher rated players, maybe even yourself. Possibly the points that Mr. Shield is taking from you were his in the first place!
Its not the ratings, so much as the sneaky way the ratings are manipulated. Too many people think its a game to play with the ratings here. My point is if i play someone, i expect them to be at that rating, not a few "hundred more or less" If i have to use energy to think with, i expect some points for it. If this person was 1600, like myself, i would l ...[text shortened]... riod. If you delibertly lose points, to play higher rated opponents, and win, its sandbagging!
GV
Originally posted by GrandmousterWell he could have just started a new account and left the Galaxy Shield one die. Then he could have taken your points and you would have been none the wiser and much happier. Would you have prefered that? Two accounts is against the rules as far as I know. What was the guy supposed to do?
Yea, unfortunate for his family. If it happend to me, i would be upset too.
But when i would start playing again, i would realise i was stronger then my rating, and would not feel good playing opponents higher rated then my current rating.
I might tell the caln leader what happened, and if it was no problem with the players, then we can play some gam ...[text shortened]... slight moral transgression.
It reflects their current sense of "fair play" and honesty level
GV