01 Mar 06
I just want to clarify my though on sandbagging. I don't think there is much if any money involved in winning something on rhp so I don't really care about this.
What I meant earlier in my posts on the first page was:
I hate those people who lose games OTB on purpose, to lower their ratings just enough to get into a lower section and win the PRIZE MONEY. This is the key, ratings go up and down, deal with it. But you pay an entry fee to get into the tourney and then someone guy pulls something like this and you get ripped off.
Thank god for rating floors in OTB 🙂 We also look out for such people at our club now and then by checking out peoples ratings 🙂
01 Mar 06
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I dont care how you lost points.
The point is, (and ill ignore the morons trying to flame this post,
all other post, dont mean anything, as they are not trying to get the point, and just wasting time.)
is you deliberately sought out higher rated opponents, to play then as an 1100, fully knowing you play at a 1700 or so level.
This is sandbagging.
If you cant understand that, then you are just justifying your transgression.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI already gave a definition of sandbagging. You don't purposely lose points to play higher rated players. People lose points to play lower rated players. That's cutting it directly to the point so don't try telling me otherwise. If I would have tried setting up games vs 1400's I would have been yelled at for sandbagging for taking advantage of lower rated players. Find a chess dictionary and look up sandbagging, I want to know why you seem to think I lost points on purpose so I could play people of my own rating that I do anyway.
I dont care how you lost points.
The point is, (and ill ignore the morons trying to flame this post,
all other post, dont mean anything, as they are not trying to get the point, and just wasting time.)
is you deliberately sought out higher rated opponents, to play then as an 1100, fully knowing you play at a 1700 or so level.
This is sandbagging.
If you cant understand that, then you are just justifying your transgression.
If you want your points back, you can have them. If anyone wants their points back, they can have them, I don't care. Me willing to give my points back should prove by itself that I'm not a sandbagger.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldIt would be better the play lower rated players, then at least they might learn something.
I already gave a definition of sandbagging. You don't purposely lose points to play higher rated players. People lose points to play lower rated players. That's cutting it directly to the point so don't try telling me otherwise. If I would have tried setting up games vs 1400's I would have been yelled at for sandbagging for taking advantage of lower rat ...[text shortened]... care. Me willing to give my points back should prove by itself that I'm not a sandbagger.
And they wonr lose much point anyway. A higher rated player lose's much more points then they should have.
Its misleading to play as an 1200, or whatever, when you know you can play at a higher level.
If i was told before of what your real rating was, i would never play you.
The game was allredy set, so i had no choice.
For the other players you beat, im sure there not happy about it, if they know.
Had you tried to make the situation clear, before taking on new games. it would be ok. The way you did it, was deceitful, to say the least
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by Grandmouster1. As GalaxyShield and others in this thread have explained, this is not sandbagging.
I dont care how you lost points.
The point is, (and ill ignore the morons trying to flame this post,
all other post, dont mean anything, as they are not trying to get the point, and just wasting time.)
is you deliberately sought out higher rated opponents, to play then as an 1100, fully knowing you play at a 1700 or so level.
This is sandbagging.
If you cant understand that, then you are just justifying your transgression.
2. This was a clan challenge. Pairing GS with a player with the same rating would have given your clan a clear disadvantage. No good clan leader would have accepted such a challenge.
3. I think most people here would agree with me that a good game is more important than some rating points. I usually find it more interesting to play someone around my own playing strength than to play someone either far above (unless it's a learning game) or far below. I would prefer to play someone whose rating has dropped to 1000, but who plays at my level (which would mean that there were a risk of losing a lot of rating points), over playing someone who has the same rating, but is actually a 2200 player. So I would expect a player with a deflated rating to choose players around their own playing strength, so that they can give their opponents a good game.
4. In conclusion, your point is void.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterYeah, I bet your clan leader saw that you were paired with a 1200 player and thought "hey, that's nice that we get such an advantage", and had no idea whatsoever that GS might be stronger than 1200. And how on earth could he/she have found out about it, it's not that you could see that in the profile or something.
The way you did it, was deceitful, to say the least
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterYou have a huge rating drop. You play opponents HIGHER rated when you return, win back the points you lost way faster since the rating difference is much bigger and you rating gets back up to where it should have been much faster. If you get really good at it, your opponents won't even notice. One days you'll be at 1700, the next at 1200 and then the next back at 1700. You need talent for that though.
It would be better the play lower rated players, then at least they might learn something.
And they wonr lose much point anyway. A higher rated player lose's much more points then they should have.
Its misleading to play as an 1200, or whatever, when you know you can play at a higher level.
If i was told before of what your real rating was, i would ...[text shortened]... before taking on new games. it would be ok. The way you did it, was deceitful, to say the least
Besides, you are here to improve your chess not to be nice to other people. Why play lower rated player and learn nothing? It's better if you play players near your real rating and learn from your games, have a good game and who cares if your opponent looses a whole bunch of points, right?
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's difficult to pronounce.
It would be better the play lower rated players, then at least they might learn something.
And they wonr lose much point anyway. A higher rated player lose's much more points then they should have.
Its misleading to play as an 1200, or whatever, when you know you can play at a higher level.
If i was told before of what your real rating was, i would ...[text shortened]... before taking on new games. it would be ok. The way you did it, was deceitful, to say the least