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02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterGS beat me during this time. I feel that I`ve made a full recovery and no longer need psychiatric help.
It would be better the play lower rated players, then at least they might learn something.
And they wonr lose much point anyway. A higher rated player lose's much more points then they should have.
Its misleading to play as an 1200, or whatever, when you know you can play at a higher level.
If i was told before of what your real rating was, i would ...[text shortened]... before taking on new games. it would be ok. The way you did it, was deceitful, to say the least
Mister GM, it sounds like you were looking for easy games and were rather unhappy to find out that your opponent was actually as good as you. Do you often go trying to beat up lesser opponents for the points? You may prefer to spend your time and energy tracking down the real sandbaggers on this site. People keeping their rating low in order to enter lower banded tournament.
P.S. Try getting out of bed on the left hand side tomorrow.
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by NordlysWell said. Have a rec. 🙂
1. As GalaxyShield and others in this thread have explained, this is not sandbagging.
2. This was a clan challenge. Pairing GS with a player with the same rating would have given your clan a clear disadvantage. No good clan leader would have accepted such a challenge.
3. I think most people here would agree with me that a good game is more impor ...[text shortened]... th, so that they can give their opponents a good game.
4. In conclusion, your point is void.
02 Mar 06
yes, yes, lots of opinions.
The fact is, you lose points, you play lower then your rating, you gain points back surreptitiously, you are un-ethical, at the least.
The moral, and sense of "right" from "wrong" in todays society is almost non-existant, so this antagonisim towards me is no surprise.
This happends when someone is doing something wrong, and fears getting caught.
They tend to attack other people who might find out.
I caught this person doing something wrong, and of course he's the victim, and im the aggressor.
Typical. This is why society is in the can.
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterWhat are you talking about? I didn't do anything wrong, I did the very oposite of what you were accusing me of, which was sandbagging. It would be morally and ethically wrong to take points vs people that I will more than often easily beat instead of continuing to play the people I should be playing. If you somehow think I got everyone who posted in this thread on my side somehow, then that's just weird. Apparently you're the only one with the moral problem here. I'm sure that if your rating fell, you would try to play 1600's instead of stealing points from lower rated people...Then again, maybe not.
yes, yes, lots of opinions.
The fact is, you lose points, you play lower then your rating, you gain points back surreptitiously, you are un-ethical, at the least.
The moral, and sense of "right" from "wrong" in todays society is almost non-existant, so this antagonisim towards me is no surprise.
This happends when someone is doing something wrong, an ...[text shortened]... course he's the victim, and im the aggressor.
Typical. This is why society is in the can.
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GalaxyShielduh..huh,,i see,,,you didnt do anything wrong,,,uh huh......🙄
What are you talking about? I didn't do anything wrong, I did the very oposite of what you were accusing me of, which was sandbagging. It would be morally and ethically wrong to take points vs people that I will more than often easily beat instead of continuing to play the people I should be playing. If you somehow think I got everyone who posted in thi ...[text shortened]... to play 1600's instead of stealing points from lower rated people...Then again, maybe not.
First you need to look at what happend.
You sought out higher rated opponents. You asked my clan leader to play me. He gave me the game without asking me first.
Of course i would reject the games, as you where clearly 1800 or so at one point.
Is everyone really saying this is o.k? I guess they have commited some similar sly, and covert act, and are justifing their actions now.
YOU WHERE SNEAKY!!!!! LITTLE BOY!!! can you grasp it?😕
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterI may have been close to 1800, but that doesn't mean that's what my skill level is. It's called having an inflated rating. I find it funny that after I clearly explained the other stuff, you quickly went the opposite way and said I was sneaky because I once had a inflated rating. And it's not my job to be an opponents clan leader, he admitted that he should have messaged you but it was to late.
uh..huh,,i see,,,you didnt do anything wrong,,,uh huh......🙄
First you need to look at what happend.
You sought out higher rated opponents. You asked my clan leader to play me. He gave me the game without asking me first.
Of course i would reject the games, as you where clearly 1800 or so at one point.
Is everyone really saying this is o.k? I guess ...[text shortened]... t, and are justifing their actions now.
YOU WHERE SNEAKY!!!!! LITTLE BOY!!! can you grasp it?😕
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldDont you think it would be misleading to let people think you are 1200, or even 1400, and play like 1600 or 1700?
I may have been close to 1800, but that doesn't mean that's what my skill level is. It's called having an inflated rating. I find it funny that after I clearly explained the other stuff, you quickly went the opposite way and said I was sneaky because I once had a inflated rating. And it's not my job to be an opponents clan leader, he admitted that he should have messaged you but it was to late.
Most of the time, a rating is what people go by. Its the only indicator of skill, except for actually playing.
I get matched up with an 1100, i expect to play an 1100.
The only other time i played an 1100, i won both games, easily, as i should.
Why should i struggle with a lower rated player? because you couldnt make moves on time?
Its not my fault, why should i lose points?
You were too busy to make moves?
So if i just couldnt get around to making my moves, and say you got to 1600 while playing our games, and i went down to say 1000, then that would be ok with you, right?
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterAbsolutely. I wouldn't mind, they're just points. You lost points because you couldn't move, and you'll get them back. Somebody is going to have to lose points, right? People can check my graph to see if the want to see what my aproximate skill level is. Like I said twice before, I'd gladly give you your points back if this is what it's about.. I'm almost 1600 so you should be able to get a lot of them back if you'd like.
Dont you think it would be misleading to let people think you are 1200, or even 1400, and play like 1600 or 1700?
Most of the time, a rating is what people go by. Its the only indicator of skill, except for actually playing.
I get matched up with an 1100, i expect to play an 1100.
The only other time i played an 1100, i won both games, easily, as i s ...[text shortened]... 600 while playing our games, and i went down to say 1000, then that would be ok with you, right?
It's up to people to see what my skill level is if they don't already know, I can't message every single player rated 1400 or below telling them that IF I play them they would actually be playing a 1600. It's also up to clan leaders to look at graphs, the reason your leader excepted the challenge was because we're equal skill wise. I could have chosen to play a far less skilled player in your clan, but I didn't because I wanted a challenge, not free rating points.
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by RahimKDon't worry I think everyone is quite clear on what you meant, which is totally different to this
I just want to clarify my though on sandbagging. I don't think there is much if any money involved in winning something on rhp so I don't really care about this.
What I meant earlier in my posts on the first page was:
I hate those people who lose games OTB on purpose, to lower their ratings just enough to get into a lower section and win the PRIZE MONEY ...[text shortened]... ) We also look out for such people at our club now and then by checking out peoples ratings 🙂
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterHave you still not learnt yet, you need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture here, instead of being angry at losing points, which is causing you to dig yourself into a deeper and deeper hole. Points are meaningless, what difference does it make? what is important is how you get on with people and react with them. I get upset at losing occassionally (but at myself not at others, I think we all do sometimes), but deep down I know I will learn more from losing than winning and that's more important than gaining a few rating points.
Dont you think it would be misleading to let people think you are 1200, or even 1400, and play like 1600 or 1700?
Most of the time, a rating is what people go by. Its the only indicator of skill, except for actually playing.
I get matched up with an 1100, i expect to play an 1100.
The only other time i played an 1100, i won both games, easily, as i s ...[text shortened]... 600 while playing our games, and i went down to say 1000, then that would be ok with you, right?
02 Mar 06
a while back grandmouster was complaining because he was winning a 1700 whose rating dropped hundreds of points during their game. now he's complaining because galaxyshield's rating is in the process of raising hundreds of points. there's no winning with this guy.
grandmouster, you're always claiming people are ganging up against you, being antagonist or counterproductive. you proceed on drawing shallow conclusions of this somehow being an example of 'moral decline of our society'. then you insult, call names and throw accusations you have no grounds for whatsoever. you never for a second stop to think "could I be wrong?" instead, you think EVERYBODY'S after you. we're not.
it's all you. YOUR bad behaviour and selfishness reflecting back at you.
(on a sidenote, I see you are trying get into 'I'm not a christian' clan, whose leader is not active because his work got disturbed by rhp too much. subsequently he mass-resigned. pretty ironic you are in fact putting him dow with all this. I suspect he won't accept you.)
02 Mar 06
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Grandmouster - peeked at 1719 rating, Galaxyshield peeked around 1780. How is that an unfair challenge?
I suppose you are going to now say that your 1719 was an inflated rating, but Galaxyshields isn't?
edit: as you said yourself.. because he was close to 1800 you would have rejected the challenge.. meanwhile you were at 1719 at one point
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by MIODudeYes but don't forget his complaint is not that the match was unfair, but that he was the victim of an international conspiracy to reduce his rating (by losing more rating points than he should have, due to his opponents lower rating).
Grandmouster - peeked at 1719 rating, Galaxyshield peeked around 1780. How is that an unfair challenge?
I suppose you are going to now say that your 1719 was an inflated rating, but Galaxyshields isn't?
The good news is that Interpol are now calamping down on this sort of activity, and it's likely that Galaxy's mother and the entire hospital staff where she faked her illness, will soon be behind bars. So we will be able to sleep safely at night knowing that our ratings points will not be stolen from us.
02 Mar 06
Originally posted by stevetoddMr. Todd, I had only given out 1 rec ever, but you just earned my second.
Yes but don't forget his complaint is not that the match was unfair, but that he was the victim of an international conspiracy to reduce his rating (by losing more rating points than he should have, due to his opponents lower rating).
The good news is that Interpol are now calamping down on this sort of activity, and it's likely that Galaxy's mother an ...[text shortened]... be able to sleep safely at night knowing that our ratings points will not be stolen from us.
Mr. Mouse, it might be worth noting that no one has agreed with you. So in a nutshell, it sucks, lifes not fair, learn to deal with it.