20 Feb 07
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Originally posted by MarinkatombDvoretsky's Endgame Manual
He wrote a book called 'End game manual'. Iwas wondering if you have read it and if so, are they similar?
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_endgame/re_dvoretskys_endgame_manual.asp?KATID=BO&ProductID=314&PUBID=RE&AUTID=63&BUYID=&ID=BO-Endgame
20 Feb 07
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Originally posted by Marinkatomb'School of Chess Excellence' series by Dvoretsky:
I have recently decided that i need to get back into study. I have been considering buying the 'School of Chess Excellence' series by Dvoretsky but i thought i'd get some comments first. I like Dvoretsky's style of writing, so i am leaning towards his books. This series appears to be pretty comprehensive, does anyone disagree?? Comments please. 🙂
EDI ...[text shortened]... e training series (covering all phases of the game) i'd be interested to hear about it.. 🙂
School of Chess Excellence 1
Endgame Analysis
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_endgame/ov_soce_endgame_analysis.asp?KATID=BO&ProductID=92&PUBID=OV&AUTID=63&BUYID=&ID=BO-Endgame
School of Chess Excellence 2
Tactical Play:
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_tactics/ov_soce_tactical_play.asp?KATID=BO&ProductID=182&PUBID=OV&AUTID=63&BUYID=&ID=BO-Tactics
School of Chess Excellence 3
Strategic Play
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_training/ov_soce_strategic_play.asp?KATID=BO&ProductID=209&PUBID=OV&AUTID=63&BUYID=&ID=BO-Training
School of Chess Excellence 4
Opening Developments:
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_training/ov_soce_opening_developments.asp?KATID=BO&ProductID=293&PUBID=OV&AUTID=63&BUYID=&ID=BO-Training
22 Feb 07
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Originally posted by MarinkatombThis is a good guide to help you get to master, from what Ive heard
I have read one of Euwe's books before, i liked it very much. I was looking for something to guide my study beyond instructional books and into a more advanced personal study (if that makes sense...)
I get the impression Dvoretsky teaches how to learn, rather than just giving instruction.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/1Q5THDKSJD8SU/ref=cm_sylt_byauthor_title_full_3
22 Feb 07
The nice thing about the Dvoretsky books, especially the Edition Olms ones, is the format. More like a collection of lessons. I found Tactical Play and Positional Play to be my favorites. I would also recommend Training for the Tournament Player. Along with Tisdall, Aagaard, Suba, and Watson.
The rest of my chess books just seem to collect dust anymore.
22 Feb 07
I recieved the books in the post last night. I'm really impressed! As reviously stated, the format is excellent. The structure is lesson based, with VERY challenging positions. I spent 1 hour analysing the first diagram!! I can see these books are going to stretch me, there is no doubt about that. It's going to take a long time to get through it all, that's for sure! 😀
22 Feb 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombHow much is the series, all 4? I read Euwe's static and dynamic features and one thing that slowed me down a lot was that it was in descriptive notation. When I started getting books in algabraic they were a lot easier to follow. Does anyone know if Static and Dynamic has been translated to Algebraic? When I studied them I had months and months isolated in a communications truck for 12 hour shifts with only one real repair event to cover in two years so I went through those two books till I knew them mostly by heart and I did improve but nowhere near expert unfortunately. I started studying Tals book
Thanks, i was hoping someone might give me a bit more to go on. I've ordered the series (all four books) and they're arriving later this week. Now all i need to do is sort out a table so i can study them! Can you believe that we don't have a table in my house! It's a nightmare :'(
The life and games of Tal, a GREAT book BTW but found out a bit late it was my buddy Leboeuf's birthday and gave it to him, ( plays here, near 2000 on this site but I stomp him OTB). I think I will get another copy. So how much for the 4 books and where do you order them from?
22 Feb 07
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Originally posted by MarinkatombThere on my to read list ..... at the moment I'm studying the material dealing with the Bangiev method. I'll be quite busy with that the months to come .....
Thanks Ivanhoe! I also found a couple of excellent reviews at chesscafe.com. I have decided to get the series and attempt to chew through them, even though i feel they might be a bit advanced for me. Have you read any of these yourself? 🙂
23 Feb 07
Originally posted by sonhouseIt cost me £66 with £6 of that being the delivery charge. I subsequently discovered i could have bought them on Amazon for £10 each, but i'm not overly concerned, the material is so good i won't be buying any more books for a long while yet!! I recommend them, but be aware that they require a LOT of time. Spending half an hour on them here or there is not going to do the material justice. The positions provided are designed to be analysed thoroughly! They are designed for already strong players (2100+ sort of players) so i am putting in extra time in an attempt to solve the problems myself. I did quite well on the first diagram, but it took me 4 hours in total!! 😉
How much is the series, all 4? I read Euwe's static and dynamic features and one thing that slowed me down a lot was that it was in descriptive notation. When I started getting books in algabraic they were a lot easier to follow. Does anyone know if Static and Dynamic has been translated to Algebraic? When I studied them I had months and months isolated in ...[text shortened]... I think I will get another copy. So how much for the 4 books and where do you order them from?
23 Feb 07
Originally posted by MarinkatombI'm as yet unconvinced by the positional play book. I've just finished Silman's Reassess your chess, and at the mo, would rate that much higher. I find Dvoretsky is saying things like, "in this position the bishop should be here and the knight would be better placed here", without actually explaining why.
It cost me £66 with £6 of that being the delivery charge. I subsequently discovered i could have bought them on Amazon for £10 each, but i'm not overly concerned, the material is so good i won't be buying any more books for a long while yet!! I recommend them, but be aware that they require a LOT of time. Spending half an hour on them here or there is no ...[text shortened]... e problems myself. I did quite well on the first diagram, but it took me 4 hours in total!! 😉
That is starting to annoy me.
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23 Feb 07
Originally posted by RagnorakYeah I can see what you mean if it does not say why it's hard to actually learn from the advice, so you would reccommend Reassess your chess, what was good about it?
I'm as yet unconvinced by the positional play book. I've just finished Silman's Reassess your chess, and at the mo, would rate that much higher. I find Dvoretsky is saying things like, "in this position the bishop should be here and the knight would be better placed here", without actually explaining why.
That is starting to annoy me.
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31 Mar 07
the good thing about how to reasses your chess workbook is that it takes a position and lists all the imbalances and positional elements in a very logical and understandable way. It explains the position in natural language, rather than a mess of variations. then it shows you how to make use of those elements. its really by far the best book I've seen.
bear in mind, I'm talking about the "how to reasses your chess workbook" book. the "how to reasses your chess" book is not much different than any other books where it tells you some principles and annotates games where that principle dominates the board. the first though, is excellent. I strongly recommend it.