16 Jan 12
Originally posted by no1marauderI came up with 62.8 80.8 and 87.3
So the best CC GMs in the world were able to achieve matchup rates of 56% 1st; 74% 1st/2nd and 82% 1st/2nd/3rd? But some schmuck turning on her computer can reach 63.3%/82.0%/88.8% and you don't consider that "overwhelming" evidence of engine use?
16 Jan 12
Originally posted by no1marauderWhich pre-computer CC GM(s) achieved the highest matchup rates and across how many non-database moves was this for? And likewise for recent OTB GMs?
So the best CC GMs in the world were able to achieve matchup rates of 56% 1st; 74% 1st/2nd and 82% 1st/2nd/3rd
Originally posted by VarenkaYou can have all these answers and more in about 4 months with the right tools.
Which pre-computer CC GM(s) achieved the highest matchup rates and across how many non-database moves was this for? And likewise for recent OTB GMs?
Modern CC is sketchy, chess computers are used by many though others want them not to be used.
My point and the little info I shared is only presented to say "ARE YOU COMPLETELY SURE SKEETER CHEATED"? I believe there are honest players that can obtain those numbers.
16 Jan 12
Originally posted by PhlabibitHonest players below GM level?
You can have all these answers and more in about 4 months with the right tools.
Modern CC is sketchy, chess computers are used by many though others want them not to be used.
My point and the little info I shared is only presented to say "ARE YOU COMPLETELY SURE SKEETER CHEATED"? I believe there are honest players that can obtain those numbers.
16 Jan 12
Originally posted by PhlabibitBut surely it's irrelevant what you believe and only about the data. If you believe honest players can achieve those matchups the onus is on you to prove it my good man.
You can have all these answers and more in about 4 months with the right tools.
Modern CC is sketchy, chess computers are used by many though others want them not to be used.
My point and the little info I shared is only presented to say "ARE YOU COMPLETELY SURE SKEETER CHEATED"? I believe there are honest players that can obtain those numbers.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThere's no onus on me to prove anything to anyone. The only thing going on here is a few people trying to prove a person likely removed for 3c was a 3b player. I'm welcome to disagree and present my case as I have. Is it enough for you? That doesn't concern me.
But surely it's irrelevant what you believe and only about the data. If you believe honest players can achieve those matchups the onus is on you to prove it my good man.
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16 Jan 12
Originally posted by PhlabibitYou're claiming the matchup system is suspect. I'm asking if you have any data to back that up?
There's no onus on me to prove anything to anyone. The only thing going on here is a few people trying to prove a person likely removed for 3c was a 3b player. I'm welcome to disagree and present my case as I have. Is it enough for you? That doesn't concern me.
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