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I have had no problems with CB9 on win 2kpro and Win XP.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Nope. XP home on the desktop and XP pro on the notebook.

I've wondered lately, however, if my dual processor is the problem, or if anti-spyware or anti-virus programs are causing the interference.
Could be.

I'm running an old Pentium III with 98SE & no anti-virus software just to avoid those sorts of problems. I figure that by running a lean machine & keeping a close 'eye' on how it behaves means a lot less work than dealing with probs caused by security software.

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Originally posted by zebano
I have had no problems with CB9 on win 2kpro and Win XP.
No problems at all?

I tested CB 9 on XP & got exactly the same problems as I did under 98SE although it did run more smoothly.

What's the date of your build?

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Originally posted by ColonelCustard
No problems at all?

I tested CB 9 on XP & got exactly the same problems as I did under 98SE although it did run more smoothly.

What's the date of your build?
I'll check when I get home. I purchased it no more than 3 months ago,

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Originally posted by zebano
I'll check when I get home. I purchased it no more than 3 months ago,
Thanks.
My copy is definitely older than yours.
If yours is working OK I might try the latest available patch.

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Originally posted by ColonelCustard
Thanks.
Yes. I've read elsewhere that CB 8 works.

I bought Fritz 9, CB 9 & the CB Opening Encyclopedia a few months ago.

CB 9 is bugged to death. Inconsistent game header data, an exceptionally poor interface, & a collection of games the overall quality of which leaves a lot to be desired, almost caused me to give up within a few hours of insta ...[text shortened]... e products. I will certainly never buy another single Chessbase product ever again.
I have none of those problems with Chessbase 9, of course I never even looked at the starter database CB9 comes with which may very well have missing header data but you're not meant to use it as a database for anything serious. The Opening Encyclopedia you bought is designed to be used in Chessbase. It's a much bigger database aimed at creating a good opening tree. It contains opening surveys and games from as far back as 1660 and up to after 2000.

The position search works fine however from listening to people being confused by it it seems it is very easy to use it incorrectly. Make sure you have the castling flags set right. It's also very powerful once you get used to it. A recent search I ran was to find games between two GMs where the winning player never moved his queen from the starting square and it was never captured.

Your claim that it messed up your computer is just hilarious. So overall, you wasted your money on good software that you aren't prepared to learn how to use. It's like an idiot complaining that Photoshop won't do what he wants when in fact he just can't use it.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I have none of those problems with Chessbase 9, of course I never even looked at the starter database CB9 comes with which may very well have missing header data but you're not meant to use it as a database for anything serious. The Opening Encyclopedia you bought is designed to be used in Chessbase. It's a much bigger database aimed at creating a good ope ...[text shortened]... diot complaining that Photoshop won't do what he wants when in fact he just can't use it.
When I joined RHP a few days ago one of the things I was concerned about was having to deal with wind-up merchants like you who get some weird 'kick' out of needlessly criticising people. Indeed, you grabbed my attention before I joined as someone of particularly low-grade intelligence who picks on people you perceive as being weaker in some way than yourself. Do you 'get-off' on this sort of thing? Do you? Some kind of power thing perhaps?

No matter.

FWIW I am a professional database software developer who knows exactly what he's doing when it comes to testing sub-standard software like my version of CB 9. I've fixed enough of other peoples' cruddy code in my time to know exactly what I'm talking about. The interesting thing for me is that incompetent developers' always, without fail, in MY experience, have all had exactly the same arrogant, self-centred, narcissistic attitude that you have just shown in your post. They don't care about what their users - their customers - think. They are right & everyone else is wrong.

Well, I have news for you. The world isn't really like that. It's too complicated for such a simplistic approach. But you aren't going to accept anything I say are you? People like you can't accept that other people may know more about something, indeed more about anything, than themselves. Even if it's a subject about which they cannot possibly know anything (in your case, MY experience with CB 9) it makes no difference. They wade in, 'shooting from the hip', making an idiot of themselves & generally causing trouble.

Furthermore, you have completely misread & misinterpreted my post.

For example: I said, 'I don't think the position finder works properly either but I didn't test it extensively enough to be 100% certain of this.'

You interpreted that statement as, 'The position finder doesn't work.'

Do you notice anything different between those two statements?

You also haven't done your research. The supplied data with CB 9 is quite clearly meant to be used seriously as it comes with a pre-defined ECO index & there are quite clearly a lot of world-class games on it. Do the names 'Gary Kasparov', 'Vladimir Kramnik', 'Anatoly Karpov' or 'Nigel Short', to mention a but few, mean anything to you? Well, in case you didn't notice they have games littered all over that database. Are you suggesting that nothing can be learned from their games? My criticism was aimed at the overall quality of the supplied games. For example, the database contains a junior tournament held in Germany back in the nineties. The quality of these games has to be seen to believed. It's not the kids' fault. They can only play as well as they can play but they have no business being on a supposedly commercial grade database. There are others & these extra games take time to wade through when performing certain searches. From it's behaviour I would say that CB 9 was written using Visual Foxpro or something similar. This class of development environment tends to use a lot of system resources in order to optimise searches. This is all well & good but processing unnecessary records not only takes more time but also uses more system resources which is a factor when using a system such as Windows 98 where system resources are limited.

I could go on but, to be quite frank, I've wasted too much time on you already. I will not continue to reward your narcism nor accept your abuse. In the future I will not respond to a single post you make in the forums. I will also add you to my ignore list within 5 minutes of posting this.

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Well said.

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Originally posted by ColonelCustard
When I joined RHP a few days ago one of the things I was concerned about was having to deal with wind-up merchants like you who get some weird 'kick' out of needlessly criticising people. Indeed, you grabbed my attention before I joined as someone of particularly low-grade intelligence who picks on people you perceive as being weaker in some way than ...[text shortened]... dd you to my ignore list within 5 minutes of posting this.
Oh dear, it appears that by actually pointing out the points on which you were wrong I have offended you. Good thing I don't have to care what some "database expert" think.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I have none of those problems with Chessbase 9, of course I never even looked at the starter database CB9 comes with which may very well have missing header data but you're not meant to use it as a database for anything serious. The Opening Encyclopedia you bought is designed to be used in Chessbase. It's a much bigger database aimed at creating a good ope ...[text shortened]... diot complaining that Photoshop won't do what he wants when in fact he just can't use it.
Regardless, you have a penchant for being condensending. You are not the only smart person in the world.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Regardless, you have a penchant for being condensending. You are not the only smart person in the world.
I'll have you know my IQ is 400017.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I'll have you know my IQ is 400017.
Out of 10000000? 😛

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I've patched my copy of CB 9 to a version dated April 06 which I couldn't download at the time I originally installed the software. This is the latest version according to the Playchess server.

The ECO browser & 'Big Key' creation now works which is the functionality I originally bought the software for.

Everything I've tested so far seems OK & CB now runs smoother than before although I still get the odd run-time error.

The performance of Windows 98SE seems unaffected. I've not tested under XP.

I'd just like to say thanks to zebano & Wulebgr for their constructive comments in this thread. Thanks to you guys my copy of CB is no longer sitting on a shelf gathering dust.

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ColonelCustard, I have not used CB9 or Fritz 9 but you sound like a spoilt braggart. Highlighted is some of your tomfoolery :-

Originally posted by ColonelCustard
CB 9 is bugged to death. Inconsistent game header data, an exceptionally poor interface, & a collection of games the overall quality of which leaves a lot to be desired, almost caused me to give up within a few hours of installing it.

The final straw came when I tried to create a 'Big Key' for another collection of games which simply produced a tree of ECO codes with no games. Also, ECO codes appear & disappear at random while browsing the tree.

An extremely unreliable duplicate game facility together with no automated facilities to normalise header data means I can't even use it to manage lists of games.


Hmmm...

Originally posted by ColonelCustard
After this experience I wasn't surprised to find an absent uninstall program so I had to remove the CB files manually. However, my machine was never right after installing CB & I eventually had to re-install Windows etc from scratch to get performance & reliability back to where it was before installation.

Fritz 9 was little better. It basically works but it refused to store my preferred game settings so I had to manually set them everytime I started a new session & manually check them everytime I started a new game. The Fritz 9 interface is best described as 'idiosyncratic' & takes a lot of effort to use.


Ouch...

Originally posted by ColonelCustardPersonally, I lost a lot of time from attempting to use these products. I will certainly never buy another single Chessbase product ever again.

Hey dude, first go to Learndirect and learn how to use a PC, windows, mouse etc.

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