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Why does everyone assume that people who subscribe don't cheat?
Is it because they think it's dumb to pay to cheat?
Well, isn't it equally pointless to play to cheat?
I don't think most of us understand these guys well enough to make assumptions about them.
Maybe they want more games, to win faster!

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Originally posted by LordofADown
Why does everyone assume that people who subscribe don't cheat?
Is it because they think it's dumb to [b]pay
to cheat?
Well, isn't it equally pointless toplay to cheat?
I don't think most of us understand these guys well enough to make assumptions about them.
Maybe they want more games, to win faster![/b]
I can think of a few who subscribed and have been banned. I don't suppose it matters much whether whether a person pays or not when it comes to cheating.

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Very similar topics have been brought up numerous times, stop digging in the graveyard of dead repetitive threads, and post something that hasn't been discussed. If you still need some self-satisfaction look for threads where this has been discussed. That is all.

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True, I was just interested because it seems like many members do not consider players to be cheating if they're subscribed and I was worried most people had this strange idea.

dance master: show me a thread just like this one and I will stop.

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Originally posted by LordofADown
True, I was just interested because it seems like many members do not consider players to be cheating if they're subscribed and I was worried most people had this strange idea.

dance master: show me a thread just like this one and I will stop.
I'm not good at looking for old threads...

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Originally posted by LordofADown

dance master: show me a thread just like this one and I will stop.
Especially a thread since he's been here..................with his current usename anyway.

I don't know anyone who assumes subscribers don't cheat merely because they have subscribed.

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Originally posted by Kepler
I can think of a few who subscribed and have been banned. I don't suppose it matters much whether whether a person pays or not when it comes to cheating.
Here's a list of some subscribers recently banned:

User 85257
User 263208
User 117966
User 289344
User 295081
User 264478
And let's not forget User 362222 or User 285560 with the highest rating in history

Or just see this page: http://www.redhotpawn.com/comhub/removedplayers.php

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I just checked latest ten players banned for engine use. None of the ten were subscribers. I think if you checked all the banned engine players, the vast majority aren't subscribers. That is not to say there aren't a few subscribers on the cheating list. If you think about it, why should you pay to pretend you're a good player when you can do it for free? I don't know why players cheat, so i guess trying to follow their thought processes is a waste of time. I believe some clan players didn't want to let down their team members even tho they didn't have the time to play a heavy load of games competently. That's not an excuse. It's the closest i can get to a reasonable explanation. Many of the cheaters are just plain nut jobs who have no interest in chess, just in themselves.

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Originally posted by buddy2
...I just checked latest ten players banned for engine use. None of the ten were subscribers...
No, most were subscribers but their subscriptions have been cancelled or expired.

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interesting...

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Originally posted by LordofADown
Why does everyone assume that people who subscribe don't cheat?
Is it because they think it's dumb to [b]pay
to cheat?
Well, isn't it equally pointless to play to cheat?
I don't think most of us understand these guys well enough to make assumptions about them.
Maybe they want more games, to win faster![/b]
90% or more of the players banned for engine use have been subscribers.

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Originally posted by buddy2
I just checked latest ten players banned for engine use. None of the ten were subscribers. I think if you checked all the banned engine players, the vast majority aren't subscribers. That is not to say there aren't a few subscribers on the cheating list. If you think about it, why should you pay to pretend you're a good player when you can do it for free? ...[text shortened]... the cheaters are just plain nut jobs who have no interest in chess, just in themselves.
Not subscribers now because they have been banned but they were subscribers at the time.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Not subscribers now because they have been banned but they were subscribers at the time.
I just checked myself and 9 out of the last 10 have been subs

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Most 3a = nonsubs
Most 3b = subs

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How can you tell if it's a banned nonsubscriber who was a subscriber at the time they were banned?

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