17 Oct 08
And Anand missing Bxd3 really has surprised me. obviously it's not possible to see the mate, but he could easily see he could at least force to take the queen. [..] Does anyone know how much time did he have around that move?I was there in the audience. Anand was down to just one minute,
Kramnik still had 4 minutes.
And both did not count the moves, even after the 40th move nobody
adviced the referee to set the clocks (Thats not done automatically!)
Even in the press conference both did not mention Bxd3.
Kramnik said, that f3 was his last big blunder ;-)
( My engine told me something else )
18 Oct 08
Originally posted by afxhow great to witness everything that goes on. thanks for the info.
I was there in the audience. Anand was down to just one minute,
Kramnik still had 4 minutes.
And both did not count the moves, even after the 40th move nobody
adviced the referee to set the clocks (Thats not done automatically!)
Even in the press conference both did not mention Bxd3.
Kramnik said, that f3 was his last big blunder ;-)
( My engine told me something else )
could you perhaps give us some kind of details on how the players took the game? how was Kramnik looking? devestated? calm, nervous, angry?
18 Oct 08
For the first 15 moves Kramnik needed 15 miniutes and Andand just 9. Even Rg4 he played within 20 seconds.
For Rd1 Kramnik needed more than 40 minutes, I think he thaught, he fell into a trap (and propably he did. In the press conference Anand was asked about, he said, we can talk about that after the championship and smiled ). For 17. Bf4 Kramnik needed more than 20 minutes, too. From Rd1 on Kramnik went to his rest room after every move, even when his time was down to 15 minutes.
( The stage was even empty for several moves, because both players where in the rest room)
Then he didn't leave the stage any more but always ran up and down on the stage. The last 10 moves or so both where at the board.
Kramnik looked nervous all the time and anand smiled. Only when playing Rg7 Anand looked quite serious and took a lot of time.
( All the time values are very rough, because I did not payed attention to them and I am just memorize them)
18 Oct 08
Originally posted by afxwow, all of this is very interesting, thanks. I wonder why he keeps going to the restroom. and running up and down on stage? what do you mean running? like walking anxiously?
For the first 15 moves Kramnik needed 15 miniutes and Andand just 9. Even Rg4 he played within 20 seconds.
For Rd1 Kramnik needed more than 40 minutes, I think he thaught, he fell into a trap (and propably he did. In the press conference Anand was asked about, he said, we can talk about that after the championship and smiled ). For 17. Bf4 Kramnik needed more t ...[text shortened]... e values are very rough, because I did not payed attention to them and I am just memorize them)
18 Oct 08
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Originally posted by diskamylThe chessvibes.com video shows Kramnik "taking a walk" on one of the last moves, I believe...
wow, all of this is very interesting, thanks. I wonder why he keeps going to the restroom. and running up and down on stage? what do you mean running? like walking anxiously?
18 Oct 08
A fairly tame draw in Game 4. Tomorrow's a day off and Kramnik has White on Monday. This is an important game for him; he needs a victory soon or the match might get out of hand. Susan Polgar has some good analysis of Game 4 and the match on her blog at: http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008/10/anand-kramnik-live.html
18 Oct 08
Originally posted by no1marauderGood link no1, thanks. If I didn't know any better I'd think the comments were added after the game as she gets almost every move and idea right!
A fairly tame draw in Game 4. Tomorrow's a day off and Kramnik has White on Monday. This is an important game for him; he needs a victory soon or the match might get out of hand. Susan Polgar has some good analysis of Game 4 and the match on her blog at: http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008/10/anand-kramnik-live.html
But of course, it just shows that this technical kind of game is pretty standard fare to most strong GMs.
18 Oct 08
Originally posted by heinzkatyes I just saw that, but thanks anyway. I wish I could've been there and watch these live and be at least some kind of master to be able to follow the moves without having no idea.
The chessvibes.com video shows Kramnik "taking a walk" on one of the last moves, I believe...
18 Oct 08
what do you mean running? like walking anxiously?[/b]I meant "walking up and down, nervously"
I think, it must be quite annoying for Annand, that Kramnik always is coming and going and so on
The 4th game today was quite annoying, too.
The hall was packed - when the game started. But after an hour a third of the spectators went to the analysis room, because perhaps there something interesting could be told. But there they just said
the same: its a boring draw.
Kramnik made the same today, after most of the moves he went to the restroom.
Very nice, some minutes before the draw they switched on the lights for a second. Obviously the organizer thought, the trouble is over now ;-)
18 Oct 08
Originally posted by diskamylDidn't know this myself, but apparently...
what's a litotes?
Litotes
In rhetoric, litotes[1] is a figure of speech in which, rather than making a certain statement directly, a speaker expresses it even more effectively, or achieves emphasis, by denying its opposite. For example, rather than merely saying that a person is rather attractive (or even very attractive), one might say that he or she is "not unattractive".
By its nature, litotes is a form of understatement, always deliberate and with the intention of subtle emphasis. However, the interpretation of litotes can depend on context, including cultural context. In speech, it may also depend on intonation and emphasis; for example, the phrase "not bad" can be said in such a way as to mean anything from "mediocre" to "excellent".
The use of litotes appeals specifically to certain cultures including the northern Europeans and is popular with the British. It is a feature of Old English poetry and of the Icelandic sagas and is a means of much stoical restraint.[2]
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19 Oct 08
Originally posted by streetfighterOK, thanks.
Didn't know this myself, but apparently...
[b]Litotes
In rhetoric, litotes[1] is a figure of speech in which, rather than making a certain statement directly, a speaker expresses it even more effectively, or achieves emphasis, by denying its opposite. For example, rather than merely saying that a person is rather attractive (or even very attr ...[text shortened]... s a means of much stoical restraint.[2]
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