20 Mar 09
I have a bee in my bonnet and i need to get it off my chest, it doesn't happen very often so please bare with me.
In the 2009 Championship i have two games left against a certain player, amongst others, in which both games i have a considerable material advantage. If i was in his position i would've resigned a while ago, so would a lot of other players. Anyways it didn't matter because he was making a few moves a day and it wouldn't be long until i won. Then, he stops moving so frequently and only starts moving once between 1-2am here in the UK when i'm in bed (he's form the US), so now my timebank is going down considerably.
Am i being paranoid?? That wouldn't be the first time. So i asked him what was going to happen about the games ie. whether he was going to claim a win or play on because as neither of us are going to get through the group.
I'll paraphrase his reply.
'I consider timebank management an important STRATEGY of tournament chess.'
So it sounds like he has played for the timeout win. Is it me or is that just ridiculous??
Rant over, and i feel better.
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobIs he doing anything wrong or is he moving within the agreed time controls?
I have a bee in my bonnet and i need to get it off my chest, it doesn't happen very often so please bare with me.
In the 2009 Championship i have two games left against a certain player, amongst others, in which both games i have a considerable material advantage. If i was in his position i would've resigned a while ago, so would a lot of other playe ...[text shortened]... e timeout win. Is it me or is that just ridiculous??
Rant over, and i feel better.
What is he doing to you that is so different to what you can do to him or does he not sleep?
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by adramforallHe is doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm just bitter!!!!
Is he doing anything wrong or is he moving within the agreed time controls?
What is he doing to you that is so different to what you can do to him or does he not sleep?
Sorry, i forgot to add a part of the story. I went travelling for a month, i moved when i could, but my timebank is very depleted compared to his.
He moved frequently until he was in a losing position, then he started moving once a day ie. always 1-2am UK time to deliberatlely bring down my timebank, even though he moves throughout the day.
What irks me is that he's being resoundly thrashed in both games, if they were close games fair enough.
A win by timeout, fair enough i've claimed them but never in a losing position. But a win by 'time management strategy'.
I guess i'm just feeling a little sensitive.
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobYou, sensitive 😛
He is doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm just bitter!!!!
Sorry, i forgot to add a part of the story. I went travelling for a month, i moved when i could, but my timebank is very depleted compared to his.
He moved frequently until he was in a losing position, then he started moving once a day ie. always 1-2am UK time to deliberatlely bring down m ...[text shortened]... . But a win by 'time management strategy'.
I guess i'm just feeling a little sensitive.
That is the problem when you lose a heap of timebank and then play people from across the pond -timing is everything.
He has realised that he has 38 days in hand and as such has you by the short and curlies. You will timeout automatically 2 days after your timebank hits zero.
You have to ask yourself is it worthwhile playing on, knowing you will almost certainly lose to timeout in due course?
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by adramforallI have asked myself that question, but i'm away for most of the weekend so i'll timeout anyway. And when i do timeout at least it'll show in his game log, and anybody who stumbles across the games how incredibly unsporting he is.
You, sensitive 😛
That is the problem when you lose a heap of timebank and then play people from across the pond -timing is everything.
He has realised that he has 38 days in hand and as such has you by the short and curlies. You will timeout automatically 2 days after your timebank hits zero.
You have to ask yourself is it worthwhile playing on, knowing you will almost certainly lose to timeout in due course?
If our games decided upon him getting through to the next round, then fair enough i could sort of, bergudgingly, understand. But they mean nothing.
I've sent him a message to try and goad him into being a sporting man and resign, but we'll see.
In one game i'm two moves away from promoting a pawn. Queen, Rook and Bishop vs Rook. Reisgnation due?? You'd think so.
20 Mar 09
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Originally posted by Proper KnobThen why do you care? You agreed to play with these timecontrols, noone forced you to. If you cant keep up with it its your own fault.
If our games decided upon him getting through to the next round, then fair enough i could sort of, bergudgingly, understand. But they mean nothing.
You should either not care or post the game links so we can all see who that loser is😛
20 Mar 09
Timebank management eh, that old chestnut. What happened to chess? Timebank managers, like most managers of insignificant operations, are truly scrofulous oiks. Let the weiner have his hard earned rating points, then he can wow his friends with tales of how he temporally outmanoeuvred a numerically superior opposition, before moving in for the kill whilst his unsuspecting foe slumbered.
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by zozozozoThen why do you care?
😛
Pride and sporstmanship.
You agreed to play with these timecontrols, noone forced you to. If you cant keep up with it its your own fault.
Thanks, i didn't know that.
You should either not care or post the game links so we can all see who that loser is.
Will do when the games finished. It'll break the rules if i do it now.
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by Proper Knobthere are also conditional moves btw.
Then why do you care?
Pride and sporstmanship.
You agreed to play with these timecontrols, noone forced you to. If you cant keep up with it its your own fault.
Thanks, i didn't know that.
You should either not care or post the game links so we can all see who that loser is.
Will do when the games finished. It'll break the rules if i do it now.
you got yourself into time trouble. so now you have to prove whether you can win the 'won' games in that time or not. business as usual. (it also seems to me that timing you out was his strategy from move one, you just never saw that coming.)
20 Mar 09
It's definitely legal, though a bit shabby, I believe.
I offered a draw in a Championship game when I had a good thirty days timebank on one guy rated about a hundred less than myself. I felt the position was drawn and didn't want to claim a win on time (he had less than three days remaining).
Personally, I only like to take wins where I, you know, WIN. For some, it appears that this is not the case.
20 Mar 09
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Originally posted by Proper KnobTime is important factor which should be taken into consideration. Inability to manage your time is serious drawback, no less serious than other chess related drawbacks.
I have a bee in my bonnet and i need to get it off my chest, it doesn't happen very often so please bare with me.
In the 2009 Championship i have two games left against a certain player, amongst others, in which both games i have a considerable material advantage. If i was in his position i would've resigned a while ago, so would a lot of other playe e timeout win. Is it me or is that just ridiculous??
Rant over, and i feel better.
But I understand you - losing by time in winning position is always annoying. For example there is one guy FM Vladimir Sveshnikov (son of GM Evgeny Sveshnikov) against which i have been played in many local blitz/rapid tournaments. Most of our recent blitz/rapid games have similar story - I`m overplaying him and getting clearly winning position, but then both of us has 20-30 secs left. Then result is decided by handiness (unfortunately moving pieces with hands is not so easy how it`s to do it with mouse in internet) - and he drops my flag, so I lose (if i did not manage to take off all his pieces) or draw (if I managed to take off all his pieces), instead of win.
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by Proper KnobHow about setting your alarm clock for 3 AM, wake up, make a killer move, and go back to sleep dreaming of imminent victory? That will satisfy the bee in your bonnet and the rules of the tournament.
I have a bee in my bonnet and i need to get it off my chest, it doesn't happen very often so please bare with me.
In the 2009 Championship i have two games left against a certain player, amongst others, in which both games i have a considerable material advantage. If i was in his position i would've resigned a while ago, so would a lot of other playe ...[text shortened]... e timeout win. Is it me or is that just ridiculous??
Rant over, and i feel better.
I will decline your offer to "bare with me."
20 Mar 09
Originally posted by ParShooterI have thought that, but the killer moves have been made. It's just a job of finishing him off but i won't get the time. He has 40 days timebank in both games, i have 12hrs and 36hrs respectectively. He doesn't have to move for a month and he's still fine.
How about setting your alarm clock for 3 AM, wake up, make a killer move, and go back to sleep dreaming of imminent victory? That will satisfy the bee in your bonnet and the rules of the tournament.
I will decline your offer to "bare with me."
My apologies, 'bear with me'!!!!! 😉