16 Jul 05
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Originally posted by howardgeeThis is nonsense. You lose because you make mistakes, not because your opponent can make a move first. With perfect play you would always have a draw.
...I know I have mentioned this before but to no avail:
Black should have some rating weighting when it comes to the outcome of the game.
White has an accepted advantage in that he moves first and indeed between equal players it is ...[text shortened]... MMON RUSS, CHANGE THE RATING METHOD!!!!
GIVE BLACK A CHANCE!!!!
Edit: And usually in tournaments and clan games etc. you play both white and black against your opponent..
17 Jul 05
Originally posted by flexmoreI agree that it would be nice to have some extra computing going into the ratings calculations, with color biasing being significant vs. a high-rated player, and tapering to zero vs. players with ratings close to zero.
... at that level white's advantage is huge!
17 Jul 05
Sorry, but this is like the 10th post I have seen about white having an unfair advantage. This is completely idiotic! White does have an advanrage, with PERFECT PLAY. There is no player on this server that can play a game PERFECTLY. There will always be a (?) move, black just has to exploit it!
17 Jul 05
Originally posted by Tactical PlayI urge you to read flexmore's post in this thread, in which he has looked up the results of games between top-6 players.
... This is completely idiotic! White does have an advanrage, with PERFECT PLAY. There is no player on this server that can play a game PERFECTLY...
18 Jul 05
As I write there are 16 open invites, two of whom want to play black!!
Everybody seems to agree that white has an advantage.
Of course in tournaments, players are forced to play black and white alternately.
On this site though, it is possible for a player to NEVER play black!
It seems a logical and painless step to introduce a ratings calculation bonus for black. This may encourage ratings obsessed players to play black more often.
18 Jul 05
Originally posted by howardgeeTo be honest at my level I don't think colour choice it makes a huge difference. At least a couple of moves in almost every game I play cost the player more of an advantage than they'd get by being white.
As I write there are 16 open invites, two of whom want to play black!!
Everybody seems to agree that white has an advantage.
Of course in tournaments, players are forced to play black and white alternately.
On this site though, it is possible for a player to NEVER play black!
It seems a logical and painless step to introduce a ratings calculation bonus for black. This may encourage ratings obsessed players to play black more often.
Now look at the rating breakdown, I'm 74th out of nearly 8000 players who have moved in the last 100 days. If that's the case with my games it's also the case with the majority of players rated lower than me. Why should an adjustment be added when the difference is really only evident to the very very top of players on the site. I hesistate to say when it becomes a big deal but I'd guess it's somewhere around page 2 of the rating list. 30 players. Out of nearly 8000.
18 Jul 05
Originally posted by howardgeethen what? nobody forces you to play.
As I write there are 16 open invites, two of whom want to play black!!
if you guys suck with black pieces it is your problem, dont blame anything else. white advantage is so slight, that it should not make difference...at least at that level we patzers are playing.