27 Mar 08
Originally posted by AdoreaHmm... for anyone who is actually interested in the position: it came from a rapid game Kramnik - Aronian, 2007. Kramnik actually missed the mating net and the game ended in a draw not much later.
cuz i accidently didn't cut the first two moves off in chessbase 😀
Kh8=mate is why.
1. Rf7+ Kg8
2. Re7! and immediately the game is [would have been] lost for Black. The longest way to prolong the game would have been:
2. ... Rc8 [of course losing to 3. Nxc8, but White can even deliver a checkmate via]
3. Rg7+ Kf8 [3. ... Kh8 4. Nf7 mate]
4. Kh7! [nothing to do against the cute Rf7 mate]
4. ... Rc7
5. Rxc7 Ne5
6. fxe5 any
7. Rf7 mate
27 Mar 08
Originally posted by heinzkatwell, if mines not good enough for you.. make another one i don't care, i just wanted to solve it...and i think i did! 😀
Hmm... for anyone who is actually interested in the position: it came from a rapid game Kramnik - Aronian, 2007. Kramnik actually missed the mating net and the game ended in a draw not much later.
1. Rf7+ Kg8
2. Re7! and immediately the game is [would have been] lost for Black. The longest way to prolong the game would have been:
2. ... Rc8 [of course lo ...[text shortened]... h7! [nothing to do against the cute Rf7 mate]
4. ... Rc7
5. Rxc7 Ne5
6. fxe5 any
7. Rf7 mate
27 Mar 08
Originally posted by SwissGambitSorry, I have no clue. This is a tactics thread and not a retrograde analysis one! (hiding behind that, but no, really, I have no clue)
No, the puzzle is not solved. The retro analysis is needed to do so. En passant cannot just be played because it satisfies a stipulation.
27 Mar 08
Originally posted by heinzkatRetro analysis is an inescapable part of chess puzzles. In a chess puzzle, it must be assumed that the position could result from a legal game. Otherwise, it's not really a chess puzzle, but some variant game masquerading as chess.
Sorry, I have no clue. This is a tactics thread and not a retrograde analysis one! (hiding behind that, but no, really, I have no clue)
27 Mar 08
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Originally posted by tomtom232Actually, all I posted was the Forsythe notation - not a full FEN string. RHP doesn't require that, and I wouldn't give away the key to the problem by posting it.
And according to the FEN... en passant is not legal.
RHP uses incorrect terminology for the "FEN" tag. It's really just looking for the Forsythe part.
BTW, how's that Bxh7+ analysis coming?
27 Mar 08
Originally posted by SwissGambitIt was finished before I posted the problem...but now I am adding a queen for black at random places to see if it still works.
Actually, all I posted was the Forsythe notation - not a full FEN string. RHP doesn't require that, and I wouldn't give away the key to the problem by posting it.
RHP uses incorrect terminology for the "FEN" tag. It's really just looking for the Forsythe part.
BTW, how's that Bxh7+ analysis coming?
28 Mar 08
Originally posted by SwissGambitSo what are we going to do about it? I think the 24 hours have passed... so you may give us the right answer!
Retro analysis is an inescapable part of chess puzzles. In a chess puzzle, it must be assumed that the position could result from a legal game. Otherwise, it's not really a [b]chess puzzle, but some variant game masquerading as chess.[/b]