27 Jun 05
Originally posted by CentreNutOn Wednesday he won the chance to play the infernal machine. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
here
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=25540
fool
on wednesday i got given the chance to play a game with the chess monster hydra which is currently playing GM Michael Adams.so today i played the game and here is the notation if anyone is interested. also if anyone would like to post any analysis i would be grateful, no matter how offensive you want to be about my game.
27 Jun 05
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Originally posted by XanthosNZAnd no I don't think I can beat hydra. I can't even beat fritz or chessmaster which is exactly the reason I didnt wast my time or a game somebody else with half a chance could of played. I would much prefer somebody with half a chance of winning, play it than me. The question was on the site "Do you think you can beat hydra" I instantly knew the answer NO. so did'nt enter.
And you think you would have beaten Hydra when Adams can't? To make it worse Hydra would be much harder to beat in a blitz (Freddie played 15+10) than in classical I believe.
The only time Hydra has been beaten was in the recent Frees ...[text shortened]... liar you make yourself look worse.
Take some advice and shut up.
Don't worrie freddie I dont think you're the only waster.. all the people who played it never had a chance apart from the guy who got upto 40moves.. All the others was wasters, And anyone who entered THINKING they could beat are also wasters.
Now effectivly there hasn't been a human thats beaten the computer.. next they will take over the world.. you seen terminator haven't you?
27 Jun 05
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Yes I may understand now that frieddie won a ame to play it.. even he said he will go back and edit his post to make it more clear. Which he never did.
Originally posted by Nordlys
Didn't you say you won that game?
no i mean that on wednesday i won a game against hydra...e.g. i got a chance to play the machine...ill edit it to make it clearer...
If freddie had made himself clear.. not only in the post in forums but private messages to me there wouldn't of been this problem.
Even Nordlys is confused here!! in this post he saying too that freddie is claiming to of beaten it.
27 Jun 05
Originally posted by CenterNutYes, I was confused, too. So I asked and got an explanation, and he edited his confusing post (yes, he did). I don't understand why you would have needed another explanation in a PM, didn't you read the one in the forum? Misunderstandings happen, the question is what you do with them. Calling someone a liar because you don't get it doesn't seem the best way.
Yes I may understand now that frieddie won a ame to play it.. even he said he will go back and edit his post to make it more clear. Which he never did.
Originally posted by Nordlys
Didn't you say you won that game?
no i mean that on wednesday i won a game against hydra...e.g. i got a chance to play the machine...ill edit it to make it clearer. ...[text shortened]... Nordlys is confused here!! in this post he saying too that freddie is claiming to of beaten it.
27 Jun 05
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Yes You ARE 100% correct he has EDITED his post, Which proove me right in saying he keeps changing his story. I've looked for post by freddie which are no longer there. So im a little confused myself.. I'm like didnt he say this.. but can't find it.. Well anyway I've had to trick you into this trap to get answers. And half the people here haven't read the full unedited post so they have nothing to say and can shut up, because they only know half the EDITED story.
I almost forgot every time I pointed out something strange about freddies claims he changed it!!
And that happen more than once.
27 Jun 05
Originally posted by CenterNutHuh? You tricked me into a trap? What trap? 😕
Yes You ARE 100% correct he has EDITED his post, Which proove me right in saying he keeps changing his story. I've looked for post by freddie which are no longer there. So im a little confused myself.. I'm like didnt he say this.. but can't find it.. Well anyway I've had to trick you into this trap to get answers. And half the people here haven't read ...[text shortened]... ted out something strange about freddies claims he changed it!!
And that happen more than once.
Freddie edited his post to make it less confusing. That's not "changing the story".
27 Jun 05
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Originally posted by NordlysHe changed his story from "I won a game against hydra" to "I mean I won a chance to play it" maybe not in those exact words. But thats how it looked to me.
Huh? You tricked me into a trap? What trap? 😕
Freddie edited his post to make it less confusing. That's not "changing the story".
This was after I told him no humans had beaten it. and Also after I told him the public games wasn't till friday he posted that few days before the public games.
Quite clearly stating he won aginst hydra then changing it.
Too me this is like the same techniques they used to write the bible it could be used and twisted in any situation
27 Jun 05
Originally posted by CenterNut"I won a game" is ambiguous - it can mean "I played a game and won", or "I won a chance to play a game". You and I and maybe some others misunderstood that, so he changed it to make it unambiguous. It was decided who would get a chance to play Hydra on Wednesday (by a draw), so he won the game on Wednesday. He played it on Friday and lost. Is that sooo hard to understand?
He changed his story from "I won a game against hydra" to "I mean I won a chance to play it" maybe not in those exact words. But thats how it looked to me.
This was after I told him no humans had beaten it. and Also after I told him the public games wasn't till friday he posted that few days before the public games.
27 Jun 05
Originally posted by CenterNutare you absolutly fukcing stupid...let me exlain this to you very...very...very slowly.
Its not now but when this thread started like over a week ago it wasn't
and it wasn't "I won a game" it was "I won a game against hydra"
i originally posted " on wednesday i won a game agaisnt hydra"...etc blah blah blah. then nordlys said he was sure that i couldn't beat it or something like that. i then agreed that it did read very wrong. obviously i couldn't have beaten hydra, even adams couldn't. no one on this website could. i would hardly lie about something like that, how obvious would it be! so i went back and edited the post, not to change my story but to make it more clear to people reading it what i meant.
as has been pointed out before, the statement had two meanings and, if interpreted in one meaning, the one that i meant, then my story did not change because i only edited it to make it clearer.
i think that anyone who is stupid enough not to be able to translate the, i admit, poorly phrased statement shouldn't be playing chess. i've had the backing of everyone else who has posted in this thread, even bowmann!!!! and they all seem to have clearly understood what i meant. yet you seem unable to comprehend what i was saying.
also...i did point you towards the hydra website which had my name on it...therefore proving that i was there.
27 Jun 05
Originally posted by Freddie2004if that doesn't prove it i don't know what will.
are you absolutly fukcing stupid...let me exlain this to you very...very...very slowly.
i originally posted " on wednesday i won a game agaisnt hydra"...etc blah blah blah. then nordlys said he was sure that i couldn't beat it or something like that. i then agreed that it did read very wrong. obviously i couldn't have beaten hydra, even adams cou ...[text shortened]... int you towards the hydra website which had my name on it...therefore proving that i was there.
28 Jun 05
Originally posted by Freddie2004Freddie i'm not even going to repost if you want to read back thats fine. but this is also a twist on the truth. and anyone with half a brian would spot.. or do I need to point out your lies again.
are you absolutly fukcing stupid...let me exlain this to you very...very...very slowly.
i originally posted " on wednesday i won a game agaisnt hydra"...etc blah blah blah. then nordlys said he was sure that i couldn't beat it or something like that. i then agreed that it did read very wrong. obviously i couldn't have beaten hydra, even adams cou ...[text shortened]... int you towards the hydra website which had my name on it...therefore proving that i was there.
And I think IM31, David Tebb, Northern Lad, Akizy and other players in the top 20 could of beaten it, or at least drawn.