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Originally posted by RJHinds
You don't know the evidence says so, you only believe what you say the real scientists say. Man up and tell the truth.

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I have seen the evidence and it shows evolution.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You don't know the evidence says so, you only believe what you say the real scientists say. Man up and tell the truth.

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Oh, you mean like you think YOU have original thoughts that go way beyond Humy's?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Oh, you mean like you think YOU have original thoughts that go way beyond Humy's?
I don't have original thoughts. My thoughts are thoughts on loan from GOD!

HalleluYah!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't have original thoughts. My thoughts are thoughts on loan from GOD!

HalleluYah!

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In other words then, no thoughts.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't have original thoughts. My thoughts are thoughts on loan from GOD!

HalleluYah!

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I don't have original thoughts.

have you ever tried? if not, I challenge you to have a go right now!
Do you choose not to have original thought because you fear they may lead to conclusions that conflict with your religious beliefs or are you simply unable to have them?
How can you rationally scrutinize your religious beliefs (such as there being no evolution and the Earth being young etc) without at least trying to have them? -that's why I sometimes ask you how do you know you know the truth.

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Originally posted by humy
I don't have original thoughts.

have you ever tried? if not, I challenge you to have a go right now!
Do you choose not to have original thought because you fear they may lead to conclusions that conflict with your religious beliefs or are you simply unable to have them?
How can you rationally scrutinize your religious beliefs (such as ...[text shortened]... rying to have them? -that's why I sometimes ask you how do you know you know the truth.
I don't see you having any original thoughts. You are just regurgitating the things you have been told by evil-lutioninsts and atheists.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't see you having any original thoughts. You are just regurgitating the things you have been told by evil-lutioninsts and atheists.

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I don't see you having any original thoughts.

and yet I do. Via original thought, I have invented new software (yet to be copyrighted so I cannot go into too much detail). Via original thought, I have formed a new theory about how evolution works under a certain rare set of circumstances that I called “outpost evolution”. The list goes on and on. Via completely independent but not strictly 'original' thought because others would have independently thought along identical or similar lines, I have also concluded that both evolution and old-Earth is fact and what other people have told me has absolutely nothing to do with that formation of that conclusion esp as some people told me it was false!

You said you don't have original thought which is terrible.
So why don't you have any original thought? Or at least try to?

and why would a god give us that capacity for original thought, or at least independent thought, if we shouldn't use it?

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Originally posted by humy
I don't see you having any original thoughts.

and yet I do. Via original thought, I have invented new software (yet to be copyrighted so I cannot go into too much detail). Via original thought, I have formed a new theory about how evolution works under a certain rare set of circumstances that I called “outpost evolution”. The list goes on ...[text shortened]... city for original thought, or at least independent thought, if we shouldn't use it?
I don't believe any of our thoughts are original. I believe God has already thought of anything we could possible think of before us. Perhaps you are getting thoughts inspired by Satan.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't believe any of our thoughts are original. I believe God has already thought of anything we could possible think of before us. Perhaps you are getting thoughts inspired by Satan.

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So much for free will then. You can remain trapped by all that bullshyte but we in the real world will go on in spite of your religious crap. Besides, by your own logic, your so-called god would not have thought of everything if your stupid satan thought of its own shyte. What utter rot. You can wallow in your own deceptions but don't bring them to the science channel. WE DON'T WANT IT HERE.

I certainly have my own creative thoughts, written dozens of new tunes, recorded them, have 4 of them on myspace.
Also did work on gravitational lenses and several inventions, a couple ongoing with my son in law who is a Phd physicist living in Brazil.

Original thoughts actually happen with no input from a god. Much as you might want to deny it. Your denial does nothing. Zero, Nada.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So much for free will then. You can remain trapped by all that bullshyte but we in the real world will go on in spite of your religious crap. Besides, by your own logic, your so-called god would not have thought of everything if your stupid satan thought of its own shyte. What utter rot. You can wallow in your own deceptions but don't bring them to the scie ...[text shortened]... no input from a god. Much as you might want to deny it. Your denial does nothing. Zero, Nada.
Not having orignal thoughts does not mean one does not have free will. We have free will to think of all the non-orignal thoughts. Isn't that glorious?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Not having orignal thoughts does not mean one does not have free will. We have free will to think of all the non-orignal thoughts. Isn't that glorious?

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so I take it you prefer we only stick to thinking only non-original thoughts? If so, Sorry, we refuse! so what are you going to do to stop us thinking original thoughts?
Unlike you, I have and I will continual to exercise my free will to think originally and there is nothing you can do to stop me!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't believe any of our thoughts are original. I believe God has already thought of anything we could possible think of before us. Perhaps you are getting thoughts inspired by Satan.

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There is no god or gods to think originally. Your belief that there is is baseless.
Have you ever considered trying to think of something that no mortal human being that you are aware of has thought of before? -or is intelligent independent thinking simply beyond your capability?
are you against intelligent independent thinking aimed at at least trying to think originally -if so, why? -if a 'God' gave as brain and free will then why would we not allowed to excises our free will to use our brain?

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How ghastly. Somebody here is seemingly against original thought.
It is dangerous to think originally! you mustn't allow people to think originally! -it leads to people questioning the Bible.
NO ORIGINAL THOUGHT ALLOWED!

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Originally posted by humy
There is no god or gods to think originally. Your belief that there is is baseless.
Have you ever considered trying to think of something that no mortal human being that you are aware of has thought of before? -or is intelligent independent thinking simply beyond your capability?
are you against intelligent independent thinking aimed at at least [i]trying[/i s brain and free will then why would we not allowed to excises our free will to use our brain?
God allows you to have free will and to think as you please. However, that des not mean you are thinking an original thought, even if you think it is original. Like I said, God has already thought of everything that you could possibly think of before you tried to think of it. Your thoughts might be original to some other human being, but not to God.

Here is an example;


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Originally posted by RJHinds
God allows you to have free will and to think as you please. However, that des not mean you are thinking an original thought, even if you think it is original. Like I said, God has already thought of everything that you could possibly think of before you tried to think of it. Your thoughts might be original to some other human being, but not to God.

Here is an example;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNAZtQhUms

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Your so-called god never revealed ANYTHING to you personally. You take the word of other people deeply deluded just as you. It's just a club invented by men.

There is in fact original thought and there is no way you can EVER prove some god knows all our thoughts or would even give a shyte about what we think or don't think.

It is in your inane pathologically deluded brain you think some god knows all.

Only in your brain, that is, what is left of it after many decades of decay of your own thinking ability.

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