02 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidThe goal post has stood steadfast at this claim of yours:
You didn't ask that. How many times are you going to attempt to move the goal post?
I have never attempted to confine you to recent peer reviewed articles, yet you tried to impose it on me. Accepting such an unreasonable criteria would make finding them very time consuming. I must insist you hold yourself to the same standards as you expect from others.
I have never ask ...[text shortened]... that is said to be peer reviewed and can't see any critique of the article. Where do you find that?
Selecting literature that supports your position is not proof. I can do the same thing.
Yet you have not selected any literature to support your position.
03 Jan 19
@kazetnagorra saidI have already posted plenty of Singer's articles. Here is the same link I have posted for you before.
The goal post has stood steadfast at this claim of yours:
Selecting literature that supports your position is not proof. I can do the same thing.
Yet you have not selected any literature to support your position.
https://www.americanthinker.com/author/s_fred_singer/
Now answer my questions. You have been ignoring them.
04 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidI looked up the first article from the list you gave on the previous page. The first one on the list is an article in Nature... however, it is not authored by Fred Singer.
I have already posted plenty of Singer's articles. Here is the same link I have posted for you before.
https://www.americanthinker.com/author/s_fred_singer/
Now answer my questions. You have been ignoring them.
Looks like you got bamboozled a bit there, I'm afraid.
04 Jan 19
@kazetnagorra saidReally? Can you post the nature link?
I looked up the first article from the list you gave on the previous page. The first one on the list is an article in Nature... however, it is not authored by Fred Singer.
Looks like you got bamboozled a bit there, I'm afraid.
04 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidHere is a link to the article. It's paywalled of course, but you can see who the authors are.
Really? Can you post the nature link?
https://www.nature.com/articles/384522b0
04 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidAuthor information
Really? Can you post the nature link?
Affiliations
Department of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, Virginia 22903, USA
Patrick J. Michaels & Paul C. Knappenberger
04 Jan 19
@kazetnagorra saidThat is not the first article listed like you claimed. Is it even on the list?
Here is a link to the article. It's paywalled of course, but you can see who the authors are.
https://www.nature.com/articles/384522b0
04 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidTop of the list in the URL you posted on 02 Jan '19 18:12.
That is not the first article listed like you claimed. Is it even on the list?
@Metal-Brain
See the first animated chart here, it is very persuasive ideed if you think about what it is showing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-5aceb360-8bc3-4741-99f0-2e4f76ca02bb
@metal-brain saidDo you have any evidence that most people believe that ice core samples prove that carbon dioxide caused warming in the past?
It debunks the perception of cause and effect that most people believe. Most people think the ice core samples prove CO2 caused warming in the past. It does not. This proves that even if there is anthropogenic warming you cannot be certain CO2 is the main cause of that AGW. It could be methane for all you know.
Saying it is both is an easy conclusion to make, but how mu ...[text shortened]... d guests on the program trashing string theory that are not even physicists.
Same thing, right?
04 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidMy source was a scientific paper intended for a technical audience. If you are unable to interpret scientific articles about this subject then you are not in a position to independently criticize them. You cannot rely on Feynman to get you off the hook here, his comments were audience specific, meaning that an article or talk written for a particular audience ought to consider the appropriateness of technical language being used. It does not mean that you can dismiss a scientific paper as being irrelevant to an argument simply because you do not understand all the scientific terms being used in it.
"I suggest you look at the stuff I was saying about astronomical forcing in one of the other threads on this issue."
Your source was full of unintelligible jargon. Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"A lot of people tend to use complicated vocabulary and jargon to mask when they don’t understand something. The problem is we only fool ourselves because we don’t ...[text shortened]... .com/explore/item/the-feynman-technique-the-best-way-to-learn-anything
Use the Feynman technique.
05 Jan 19
@deepthought saidHA!
My source was a scientific paper intended for a technical audience. If you are unable to interpret scientific articles about this subject then you are not in a position to independently criticize them. You cannot rely on Feynman to get you off the hook here, his comments were audience specific, meaning that an article or talk written for a particular audience ought to c ...[text shortened]... evant to an argument simply because you do not understand all the scientific terms being used in it.
You don't even know what the article is saying! FAIL!
05 Jan 19
@deepthought saidI cannot provide a poll to verify it any more than you can do the opposite. The establishment doesn't release polls that are not in their interest. You can bet the poll has been done, but the establishment keeps it suppressed. They use the polls to estimate the effectiveness of their propaganda. They do not want you to know all they do. That would be counter productive.
Do you have any evidence that most people believe that ice core samples prove that carbon dioxide caused warming in the past?
05 Jan 19
@metal-brain saidIs this the kind of scientific "debate" that you think is missing from civil discourse?
HA!
You don't even know what the article is saying! FAIL!
05 Jan 19
@kazetnagorra saidBullcrap!
Top of the list in the URL you posted on 02 Jan '19 18:12.
You are a liar! I never posted a specific article by Singer, just a link to many of them. You claimed the first listed was written by someone else. That was a lie!
Furthermore, you posted a link that was not even on the one I posted. Not even one! This is another example of how alarmists lie when they cannot rely on facts any longer.
Pathetic!