Here is the kicker on global warming:Methane

When the arctic starts thawing out due to present levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, the tundra and seabeds start oozing methane, a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than CO2. It's already starting to happen.
This can be the killer move putting us on track to really heat up the climate
Which may be why things go on for a while like they have now and has been proven these changes can take place in a few years or less:
http://www.physorg.com/preview139315982.html

Originally posted by sonhouse
When the arctic starts thawing out due to present levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, the tundra and seabeds start oozing methane, a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than CO2. It's already starting to happen.
This can be the killer move putting us on track to really heat up the climate
Which may be why things go on for a while like they have now and has b ...[text shortened]... se changes can take place in a few years or less:
http://www.physorg.com/preview139315982.html

Originally posted by flexmore
Methane is a strong greenhouse gas ... however .. it only has a half life of 7 years ... after that it becomes mostly carbon dioxide.

Yes methane could boost the effect and make us have a 10-20 year (soon) disaster ... but after that it is simply co2 we have to deal with ... lots of it ... and for a long time (i have seen estimates of hundereds to 100s o ...[text shortened]... ands of years ... who knows!).

This might be good - it could awaken us to what is happenning.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I am just afraid it may be too late already, we may have already tipped the scales. You see the data about the arctic, it is heading for another record low ice year, it won't be long till there is no more ice in the arctic.
Some people say, oh, that just means shipping will have a free hand to traverse the arctic ocean but the real danger is the trapped m ...[text shortened]... of it comes out of the ground or seabed the reaction will be faster than the destruction rate.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Where's Exxon when you need them! Get some sort of harvesting apparatus there ASAP!

Of course the Russians might blow you out of the water with their energy mercantalism attitude, but hey, at least the Canadians are challenging them!

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/headlines/2007/08/11/48226/Canada-announces.htm

Originally posted by sonhouse
Let's see, all you need is a million square miles of saran wrap and some collection tubes....

The Reagan Administration funded study of the production of methane by bovines digesting grasses (my university received the funding). They called it the cow fart study.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
The Reagan Administration funded study of the production of methane by bovines digesting grasses (my university received the funding). They called it the cow fart study.

Originally posted by sonhouse
But what do you do when the EARTH starts farting?

Originally posted by sonhouse
But what do you do when the EARTH starts farting?

Originally posted by sonhouse

This can be the killer move putting us on track to really heat up the climate

Originally posted by Aiko
Reducing your food intake from animal products will cut down on methane production, the lesser animals the lesser methane as a by-product. So vegetarians and vegans can save the day.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I don't think you quite understand the issue here. It is not about cow farts.
It is about methane which builds up from decaying vegetable matter under the tundra in the arctic and in the arctic seabed. Right now the frozen conditions keep that stuff in check but you perhaps realize methane is 20 times more potent than CO2 even if it does last only a decade ...[text shortened]... will somehow stop arctic methane release. Unless you were doing a pathetic imitation of humor.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
There are several sources of methane release: one is decaying vegetable matter in thawing tundra etc as it warms up. Another is from the bovine population. Which one will be the “greater” one is irrelevant to the issue of whether or not we should eat less animal (specifically, bovine) products to reduce methane release; it doesn’t matter how much met ...[text shortened]... e methane release from EVERY source -not just which ever source happens to be the “main” source.

Originally posted by sonhouse
If one source is 1000 times greater than another source which is if anything, an understatement, then eliminating bovine sources won't make much difference. It would be like all the herds of bov's in the world multiplied by a thousand, which makes the effort to stop bovine methane a bit understated. Besides, the amount of veggie animals around the world mus ...[text shortened]... atmosphere worldwide? There must be more than a billion head of cattle around the world, easy.